Wanted Viscount 21" frame or frameset

Not too my knowledge @sooper8 will know. The Supabike was always top of the range, again to the best of my knowledge.
The Viscount (and prior to that, the Lambert) series of filet brazed Aerospace frames existed before the Super-Bike's release.

In terms of dates, I always presumed (by logic alone) that the Super Bike release was shortly after that iteration of the black Dura Ace group set. So in a word, the Aerospace didn't evolve from the Superbike. the Super bike just sat at the top of the tree in terms of price and components - although you could argue that for rarity and wow factor for Viscount enthusiasts the gold plated Viscount is up there.

It's a fact that Viscount marketing, production and overall 'strategy' was haphazard to say the least.
As an example, despite having a fairly big sample size of the frame numbers , it would elude even the greatest minds at Bletchley Park what the 'system' means . It follows no logic or formula. Really.

I see lots of posts on bike forums from new owners of Viscount giving their frame number asking for info. They soon realise that things are not simple where Viscount are involved.

I have a few anecdotes from people who worked at the factories who said they would finish up using older components on new frames and send them out , and also using older frames with newer parts, thereby making the range of bikes out there quite 'complex'.

There is also a frame that is half brazed and half lugged. That is another story entirely.

So, in terms of the chromed Super-Bike, it seems be part part of that 'logic' , that if they made a gold plated bike , then a chromed bike with top end components seemed like the next step, and why not?
 
The Viscount (and prior to that, the Lambert) series of filet brazed Aerospace frames existed before the Super-Bike's release.

In terms of dates, I always presumed (by logic alone) that the Super Bike release was shortly after that iteration of the black Dura Ace group set. So in a word, the Aerospace didn't evolve from the Superbike. the Super bike just sat at the top of the tree in terms of price and components - although you could argue that for rarity and wow factor for Viscount enthusiasts the gold plated Viscount is up there.

It's a fact that Viscount marketing, production and overall 'strategy' was haphazard to say the least.
As an example, despite having a fairly big sample size of the frame numbers , it would elude even the greatest minds at Bletchley Park what the 'system' means . It follows no logic or formula. Really.

I see lots of posts on bike forums from new owners of Viscount giving their frame number asking for info. They soon realise that things are not simple where Viscount are involved.

I have a few anecdotes from people who worked at the factories who said they would finish up using older components on new frames and send them out , and also using older frames with newer parts, thereby making the range of bikes out there quite 'complex'.

There is also a frame that is half brazed and half lugged. That is another story entirely.

So, in terms of the chromed Super-Bike, it seems be part part of that 'logic' , that if they made a gold plated bike , then a chromed bike with top end components seemed like the next step, and why not?
Thanks mate :)
 
There is also a frame that is half brazed and half lugged. That is another story entirely.
The 79 Sebring I had, had lugs all round except the bottom bracket was lugless and just brazed in place. It was here eventually that the weld failed with a big tear between the seat tube and BB shell. Even though viscount claimed a 10 year warranty, I didn't follow it through because by this time I had got the bug and was looking to get my first 531 frame.
Mine also had unusual rear dropouts. They were the he cheap, flat steel plate type but had a gear hanger built in.

Thanks for taking the time and explaining a bit about the Superbike timeline
 
The 79 Sebring I had, had lugs all round except the bottom bracket was lugless and just brazed in place. It was here eventually that the weld failed with a big tear between the seat tube and BB shell. Even though viscount claimed a 10 year warranty, I didn't follow it through because by this time I had got the bug and was looking to get my first 531 frame.
Mine also had unusual rear dropouts. They were the he cheap, flat steel plate type but had a gear hanger built in.

Thanks for taking the time and explaining a bit about the Superbike timeline
No problem
There's loads of info over here - https://viscountandlambert.boards.net/
and far more knowledgeable people than me on there.
 
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