ok thanks for the advice guys, i ideally want to go into welder fabrication, will have to find a course that suits. i can do all the maths and science but dont have much interest in doing it. i will try for uni me thinks i already have a first certificate and national diploma in manufacturing engineering (mechanical, i had to do it like that or else people say 'your a mechanic', NO!) and a city and guilds level 1 mig welding.