To Grease or Not to Grease

Ooooo, that's another contentious one. It depends on the materials. I'd always used copper grease on threads, but after reading an excellent post from the sadly-departed captaincowelly I switched to using a ceramic anti-seize.
Well, it has the word ceramic, and it's German - this stuff has to be better.

Interesting post though.
I think the general advice is to fully rebuild your bike (or all 123 of them, @Mickeyspinn) once every year or two to avoid any parts getting stuck.🔧🪛
 
Well, it has the word ceramic, and it's German - this stuff has to be better.

Interesting post though.
I think the general advice is to fully rebuild your bike (or all 123 of them, @Mickeyspinn) once every year or two to avoid any parts getting stuck.🔧🪛

I have to say, in all my years of copper grease I haven't had any parts seize ...... I made the change anyway. I doubt I'll ever know whether my extra £20 outlay was worthwhile, but hopefully someone will track down this post in a century or two to set the record straight.
 
It's a thumbie, worth I doing the bolts, lube up and do the bolt back up.
It's not as if you're taking a RF+ shifter apart (and they're not too bad either ;-)

But WD40/GT85 just a small amount to soften any grease up, worst is you have to undo the bolt/screw and do it up again.
 
Well, it has the word ceramic, and it's German - this stuff has to be better.

Interesting post though.
I think the general advice is to fully rebuild your bike (or all 123 of them, @Mickeyspinn) once every year or two to avoid any parts getting stuck.🔧🪛
I don't have 123 bikes.....🤔
I can't count that high anyway..😊
 
All chemicals in a garage have their place....but in the wrong place they are bad news.

WD40 is not a lubricant....its a water displacement product....yes it softens grease, but so does petrol.....but i don't suggest you squirt that in your thumbshifters. Yes...WD is " greasy" but then so is neat fairy liquid.....and that's not the right thing to use either!

Grease used in bike parts does not "go hard"....ive got tubs of grease 30 years old...they are not hard.....however it does reacts with moisture. Wd will cure this, but it also wrecks the grease. They will feel great now, but as the wd dries out the grease will be diluted or gone.....your probably then in a worse situation than before.

Grease is grease, it don't need to be £5000 a kg or Dr superpants patent ball grease...a nice tub of LM from your average motorcar shop covers most bases imho.

Do it properly.....do it once....forget it.....simples...
 
All chemicals in a garage have their place....but in the wrong place they are bad news.

WD40 is not a lubricant....its a water displacement product....yes it softens grease, but so does petrol.....but i don't suggest you squirt that in your thumbshifters. Yes...WD is " greasy" but then so is neat fairy liquid.....and that's not the right thing to use either!

Grease used in bike parts does not "go hard"....ive got tubs of grease 30 years old...they are not hard.....however it does reacts with moisture. Wd will cure this, but it also wrecks the grease. They will feel great now, but as the wd dries out the grease will be diluted or gone.....your probably then in a worse situation than before.

Grease is grease, it don't need to be £5000 a kg or Dr superpants patent ball grease...a nice tub of LM from your average motorcar shop covers most bases imho.

Do it properly.....do it once....forget it.....simples...
Boooooo, truthsayer be gone!

Popping into the little house for a wee eau de toilette to get your soulcrushing demon scroll writing out of my system

A puff of this and I'm good again aWmqRRn_700b.jpg
 
erm, grease does go hard. exposed to oxygen and water the aromatic hydrocarbons in the carrier such as ethylene polymerise to plastic like structures. for the most part you want it to that as it helps bind the grease in place, but over the years this forms larger chain molecules that you don't want in a grease. the prevent the slip of platletes of moly or lithium or even teflon inside the carry which is why old greases feel hard and tend to have greater stiction. leave it in the tub and there is only a limited supply of oxygen for it to polymerise, open it to air and a layer will form on top that stops the reaction, but allow enough air and water to expose the surface and it will penertrate and continue the reaction.

or I'm lieing and just making shit up because it's friday. you choice.

milk is a good lubricant. but it doesn't displace water. :)
 
erm, grease does go hard. exposed to oxygen and water the aromatic hydrocarbons in the carrier such as ethylene polymerise to plastic like structures. for the most part you want it to that as it helps bind the grease in place, but over the years this forms larger chain molecules that you don't want in a grease. the prevent the slip of platletes of moly or lithium or even teflon inside the carry which is why old greases feel hard and tend to have greater stiction. leave it in the tub and there is only a limited supply of oxygen for it to polymerise, open it to air and a layer will form on top that stops the reaction, but allow enough air and water to expose the surface and it will penertrate and continue the reaction.

or I'm lieing and just making shit up because it's friday. you choice.

milk is a good lubricant. but it doesn't displace water. :)
Big words I believe this one *hic* 🍺 🥴
 

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