Titanium, a mystic dark art must have or a lot of hype?
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some interesting comments posted. I am fortunate to have three ti ibis. The best of the bunch is the 94 ti mojo one of the early double butted ti offerings and it remains my favourite bike. I found it more responsive than steel and obviously weighs nothing.
However all ti is not equal that is true and all may or may not fail. Buy cheap buy twice but be warned buy expensive and it may also fail as it is just metal at the end of the day. If you weigh up the number of years and the number of rides I've had from my ibis it has been a bargain. Bike for life? doubtful but 23 years and counting and still the best bike I've ever ridden.
However all ti is not equal that is true and all may or may not fail. Buy cheap buy twice but be warned buy expensive and it may also fail as it is just metal at the end of the day. If you weigh up the number of years and the number of rides I've had from my ibis it has been a bargain. Bike for life? doubtful but 23 years and counting and still the best bike I've ever ridden.
M-Power
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No idea how it rides, but yes it's stainless: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/blog/27/0 ... in-numbers
Aluminium, carbon and titanium have their merits, but, for me, purely as an example of craftsmanship it's difficult to beat something made of lugged steel with a nice paint job.
No idea how it rides, but yes it's stainless: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/blog/27/0 ... in-numbers
Aluminium, carbon and titanium have their merits, but, for me, purely as an example of craftsmanship it's difficult to beat something made of lugged steel with a nice paint job.
M-Power
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Reminds me of a lovely old Mercian Tourer i had bitd. You cant beat bike art
Saw this on your link 'There’s no doubt that Reynolds 853 rides beautifully, but there was always going to be the weight penalty hanging overhead; its’ overall strength dictating how thin you go with the wall thickness with compromising the structural integrity of the frame."
I remember the caveats with the 753 ATB race frames being one season only or a FAT 10th Ani for sub 190lb riders. Personally my fav steel rider is my 89 FAT made from Tange Prestige main triangle and Dillsburg Aircraft cromo rear stays. Its light enough and feels amazing to ride, even better than the later higher tech thinner wall TT Ox tubing models. Sure they will invent some new alloy or compound that takes it to the next level.
xerxes":1w13pif3 said:No idea how it rides, but yes it's stainless: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/blog/27/0 ... in-numbers
Aluminium, carbon and titanium have their merits, but, for me, purely as an example of craftsmanship it's difficult to beat something made of lugged steel with a nice paint job.
Reminds me of a lovely old Mercian Tourer i had bitd. You cant beat bike art
Saw this on your link 'There’s no doubt that Reynolds 853 rides beautifully, but there was always going to be the weight penalty hanging overhead; its’ overall strength dictating how thin you go with the wall thickness with compromising the structural integrity of the frame."
I remember the caveats with the 753 ATB race frames being one season only or a FAT 10th Ani for sub 190lb riders. Personally my fav steel rider is my 89 FAT made from Tange Prestige main triangle and Dillsburg Aircraft cromo rear stays. Its light enough and feels amazing to ride, even better than the later higher tech thinner wall TT Ox tubing models. Sure they will invent some new alloy or compound that takes it to the next level.
