Ti or aluminium (GT or Kona)

[Member 10502]

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thanks for the comments, they have been helpful.... im interested to know how strong the hei hei dropout is? i know its titanium, but it still doesnt look as though much metal was used to construct it, and im sure kona could have re inforced it more while adding only a minimal amount of weight :? has anyone ever cracked a hei hei? or seen one thats been broken before?

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[Smithjss70]

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I've heard of more Kona's snapping at the dropouts than Zaskar breaks. Rarely see American-Zaskar breaks period. My ex-mechanic gave me a little lecture 7 years ago, about my 96 GT Zaskar. He said, with a little condescending grin, "This is, Old equipment...you still ride this?" I told him, with pride, "Yeah, it gets ridden hard, even abused." Then he launches on about how, "the aluminum frame will fail very soon usually after about 10 years blah blah blah." I shut him out with a scowl and stopped paying attention. He is no longer my mechanic. My new mechanic, a hick from Alabama, doesn't give foolish lectures. He keeps to himself and gets the job done. When he first saw my bike, he said, "That is a Killer bike Bro!" And guess what? That same old 96 Zaskar is still as mean as it was back then. It gets ridden hard, every weekend, for the most part. Hard turns, jumps, crashes, hasn't broken yet. This frame is nearly bulletproof. Sometimes I do group rides with people on their 2014 29er-Fox Fork-full-suspension Carbon-Fiber----->Made in China $5,000+ bikes. They get their ass kicked up the hill every time. On flat sections of the trail I just blow right by them. The expression on their faces is priceless. Plus, their Fox Forks are in the shop, having $200+ repairs nearly every other month. Anyway you have one man here who can Stand by the durability of the 1990-2001, American-made GT Zaskar.

Are you implying that all Alabamans are hicks? :facepalm:
Nice Zaskar by the way.

 

[SEANSTEPHENS]

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thanks for the comments, they have been helpful.... im interested to know how strong the hei hei dropout is? i know its titanium, but it still doesnt look as though much metal was used to construct it, and im sure kona could have re inforced it more while adding only a minimal amount of weight :? has anyone ever cracked a hei hei? or seen one thats been broken before?

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i doubt you'd ever have a problem with either, that said i would be interested to know which would be the stronger one of the two myself. heres a pic of my zaskar dropout for reference. admittedly, it does look quite burly up to the the kona

Sean

 

[maroon113]

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I've heard of more Kona's snapping at the dropouts than Zaskar breaks. Rarely see American-Zaskar breaks period. My ex-mechanic gave me a little lecture 7 years ago, about my 96 GT Zaskar. He said, with a little condescending grin, "This is, Old equipment...you still ride this?" I told him, with pride, "Yeah, it gets ridden hard, even abused." Then he launches on about how, "the aluminum frame will fail very soon usually after about 10 years blah blah blah." I shut him out with a scowl and stopped paying attention. He is no longer my mechanic. My new mechanic, a hick from Alabama, doesn't give foolish lectures. He keeps to himself and gets the job done. When he first saw my bike, he said, "That is a Killer bike Bro!" And guess what? That same old 96 Zaskar is still as mean as it was back then. It gets ridden hard, every weekend, for the most part. Hard turns, jumps, crashes, hasn't broken yet. This frame is nearly bulletproof. Sometimes I do group rides with people on their 2014 29er-Fox Fork-full-suspension Carbon-Fiber----->Made in China $5,000+ bikes. They get their ass kicked up the hill every time. On flat sections of the trail I just blow right by them. The expression on their faces is priceless. Plus, their Fox Forks are in the shop, having $200+ repairs nearly every other month. Anyway you have one man here who can Stand by the durability of the 1990-2001, American-made GT Zaskar.

Are you implying that all Alabamans are hicks? :facepalm:
Nice Zaskar by the way.

No not at all. He does have the tendencies though. Thick southern accent, doesn't like authority, direct, chews tobacco and smokes. Quite a character. Doesn't play games. He is a good man. I am comparing him to my ex-condescending-bike-snob mechanic from New York. Always giving his smart-alec opinion. One time I overheard him tell a girl with a pretty nice, early 90's Rockhopper: Her fork was stuck: "If you cant move the stem, then there is no possible way to fix it. You can cut it off, but thats more trouble than the bike is worth. Its impossible. You should just throw it away." Seriously. Thank you for your opinion, jerk. I am sure that girl went home and cried. It was actually a nice bike, would do great on the trails.

By the way I have ridden a 95 Kona Explosif and it did have good ride, good handling. But that thing felt delicate to me. Don't know how that translates to the Titanium Hei-Hei. We are talking about robustness on a fast hardtail? My 94 GT Bravado feels way more solid than the Explosif. And that bike is still alive as well with no weakness in the frame. I love Zaskars because they are strong yet agile. Such a deadly combination. You can take the analogy to the big cats of planet Earth: a Cheetah, a Lion, and a Leopard. The Cheetah is the fastest cat, yet it is fragile compared to the others, who routinely impose their will upon it. The Lion is the strongest, yet it is pretty slow and awkward compared to the others. Pound for pound Leopards are the strongest felines, yet they seldom weigh over 150 pounds. They can bring down antelope several times their weight. Then they haul the giant carcass up a tall tree. A sane Cheetah wouldn't challenge a Leopard and a Lion would think twice, one-on-one. That is what reminds me of a Zaskar: Fast, strong, agile, mean, just a killer frame you cant go wrong.

 

[SEANSTEPHENS]

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.....Right

I think i get your meaning but excuse me i it takes me a while to translate

Sean

 

[Member 10502]

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thanks for the comments, they have been helpful.... im interested to know how strong the hei hei dropout is? i know its titanium, but it still doesnt look as though much metal was used to construct it, and im sure kona could have re inforced it more while adding only a minimal amount of weight :? has anyone ever cracked a hei hei? or seen one thats been broken before?

borrowed pic

i doubt you'd ever have a problem with either, that said i would be interested to know which would be the stronger one of the two myself. heres a pic of my zaskar dropout for reference. admittedly, it does look quite burly up to the the kona

Sean

Can someone answer my question please? Thanks sean for the pic

Chris

 

[cce]

I've never seen a broken Hei Hei and I am a world class kona bore.

FWIW, a GT and a Kona handle so differently that the materials they're built from is largely irrelevant imho.

 

[Member 10502]

I've never seen a broken Hei Hei and I am a world class kona bore.

FWIW, a GT and a Kona handle so differently that the materials they're built from is largely irrelevant imho.

So can a hei hei be ridden hard Without issues or is it a delicate lightweight machine?

Thanks

 

[cce]

I've never seen a broken Hei Hei and I am a world class kona bore.

FWIW, a GT and a Kona handle so differently that the materials they're built from is largely irrelevant imho.

So can a hei hei be ridden hard Without issues or is it a delicate lightweight machine?

Thanks

It's not a jump bike, but it will stand up to being ridden properly on the trails.