This is a bike to sell your family for ... and some :-)

I remember seeing a fantastic documentary about Cinelli using marble beds and optical lasers for frame alignment. I was astounded; blew my mind and always had respect for them. Untill this.

Engineering gone "perfect" I would say engineering gone "astray".

There's a bit missing replaced by a stump of a sort. Do you put your foot on it to help get your leg over the seat?
 
Engineering gone "perfect", with clear coating by a blindfolded four year old...check out the orange peel on the undersides!

This is not engineering gone "perfect" - it is the result of some idiotic CAD/CAM 'engineer'* that has no respect, or sense of, aesthetics and the perfect line.

(*note; term currently used for folk wiring up telephones/cleaning drains etc.).
 
Haha :) "I guess no one likes it then ?" :roll: Still think its perfect myself, dunno how it rides, but it looks cool & more than enough to make a head or 2 roll on the road. Love to see 1 built up & being ridden/ give 1 test run myself.

Can't vouch for the orange peel spray job buddy, haven't got it in my hands :) I'll take your word for it though. Later guys, yours Laz.
 
I think its an acquired taste, I can see that its possibly trying tom push the boundaries of design and what we accept as bicycle frame, but it just does't look 'right'. Perhaps things will improve when built up - this would be nice to see.
 
Woz":21h63q59 said:
I remember seeing a fantastic documentary about Cinelli using marble beds and optical lasers for frame alignment. I was astounded; blew my mind and always had respect for them. Untill this.

Engineering gone "perfect" I would say engineering gone "astray".

There's a bit missing replaced by a stump of a sort. Do you put your foot on it to help get your leg over the seat?

I think the front changer goes there! :LOL:
 
carbon

I am not sure its even from Italy, I recall seeing an identical frame to this in some Taiwanese carbon frame makres catalogue. Wether or not they made it or if they had been inspired by a cinelli and done an artist impression of it (and pretended thay could offer it)I am not sure but it was a while ago in the 80`s. I imgine the lack of seat tube would increase the flex quite a bit.
 
Lazarus":808hfp17 said:
Haha :) "I guess no one likes it then ?" :roll: Still think its perfect myself,

Don't worry you're not the only one! This is one beautiful piece of art and at the forefront of modern monocoque designs (and designed without any repressive UCI rules).

It's fascinating to see how these design engineers used the new possibilities monoque design gave them, exploring more optimized shapes (which can be done better than with just steel beams, mind you). Aesthetically I love how clean it is. If it weren't for old fashioned gearing systems with external derailleurs and what not, the little appedange would have been gone too.
 
TheGreenRabbit":1oiv6b4b said:
Kestrel had a similar design, Airfoil I think.

Had a quick google and here it is http://archive.kestrelbicycles.com/arch ... me=Airfoil Pro

It's a similar idea indeed but not from the same period. It is interesting to see that the no seat tube concept is still current :)

I'm not an expert on these early carbon monocoques but the Bianch/C4 TT comes very close in looks

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Let's face it, the seat tube only exists as a brace to overcome the failings of using metal tubing to build bikes.

I like it.
 
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