The Demise of the British Pub
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velomaniac":1tu2ow8r said:Yesterday, Crammond Inn by Edinburgh, pint of Samual Smiths Dark Mild, normal price not its promotion price....................£1.54 :shock:
Most expensive pint available barely reached £3.
Plus its a lovely old timber beamed inn with a beer garden offering views over the firth of forth.
If they can do it and turn a profit why cant everyone else. Exploiting the masses are the publicans of this country. Cheaper beer equals more punters who'll buy other stuff like food etc which ultimately makes good business sense.
They were doing a good trade
Sounds like somewhere not owned by a brewery that paid off its mortgage decades ago!
A bit different to the average pub.
velomaniac":ixcasjpa said:Yesterday, Crammond Inn by Edinburgh, pint of Samual Smiths Dark Mild, normal price not its promotion price....................£1.54 :shock:
Most expensive pint available barely reached £3.
Plus its a lovely old timber beamed inn with a beer garden offering views over the firth of forth.
If they can do it and turn a profit why cant everyone else. Exploiting the masses are the publicans of this country. Cheaper beer equals more punters who'll buy other stuff like food etc which ultimately makes good business sense.
They were doing a good trade
If they are turning in a profit of any sort it'll be due to Sam Smith's running the place on a shoestring and doing stuff by half-measures (e.g. factory-produced frozen pub grub rather than proper cooking) and implementing cuts wherever possible. Worth looking at the unofficial Smith's forum and this thread in particular;
http://samsmiths.info/forum/index.php/topic,2860.0.html
I've no real issues with the quality of their beer and the prices are indeed attractive, but the treatment of folk working in their pub estate is pretty shabby.
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David B":y8kjubn7 said:velomaniac":y8kjubn7 said:Yesterday, Crammond Inn by Edinburgh, pint of Samual Smiths Dark Mild, normal price not its promotion price....................£1.54 :shock:
Most expensive pint available barely reached £3.
Plus its a lovely old timber beamed inn with a beer garden offering views over the firth of forth.
If they can do it and turn a profit why cant everyone else. Exploiting the masses are the publicans of this country. Cheaper beer equals more punters who'll buy other stuff like food etc which ultimately makes good business sense.
They were doing a good trade
If they are turning in a profit of any sort it'll be due to Sam Smith's running the place on a shoestring and doing stuff by half-measures (e.g. factory-produced frozen pub grub rather than proper cooking) and implementing cuts wherever possible. Worth looking at the unofficial Smith's forum and this thread in particular;
http://samsmiths.info/forum/index.php/topic,2860.0.html
I've no real issues with the quality of their beer and the prices are indeed attractive, but the treatment of folk working in their pub estate is pretty shabby.
David
So basically it's a dying trade because it's just not financially viable any more....
If it was any other sort of business it'd gone years ago, can't see why pubs should be a special case "worthy of saving".
rosstheboss
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Rob Atkin":t6egaix7 said:
In some cases I would agree with you, in others not - Often in towns pubs are pubs - a place to get pissed and not a lot else, however out of towns, pubs are genuinely centres of the community, not just places to get wrecked until 4am in the morning (although this is quite often possible too!)
Think of city centre pubs and it's hard to think past Yates and Wetherspoons, think of a country pub and it's very very different.
silverclaws
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But does anyone get the impression that what was British is being taken apart piece by piece ? Our traditions legislated against and taxed out of existence ?
greenstiles
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Well if we still celebrated st. Georges day pubs wouldn't be closing, no one cares for tradition these day !!!
I suspect it depends on whether you're a bought-up-and-paid member of the Daily-Wail readership.silverclaws":24u5jcwr said:
I suppose seriously, though, I can see why some people would think this - cultural diversity and multi-culturism are hardly universally accepted concepts - and why should they be?
I get the concept that some people feel that a vociferous minority get attention, whilst the stiff-upper-lip and anti-complaining attitude that supposedly blights the English / British is creating inequality and erosion of traditional values - but that erosion isn't just because of either immigration of liberal attitudes. It's as much about laissez-faire attitude and apathy, as anything else.
Well that and those that would stand up and defend supposedly native values and views, just so happen to be mostly those who'd maybe are using it for their own agenda - and because of that, it's difficult to do so, without being contaminated by association.
silverclaws
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Not that I read newspapers as they are a waste of trees, but what I glean I glean from looking around me as I am an observer of others, my attempt to understand what people are. But what else is there, we have had the rat run hysteria and how many roads that were once viable routes anywhere are now closed off or made into one way only and then there is the traffic calming measures that actually add to congestion, authorities are fine at building speed humps to treat us all with contempt, but will not fix the holes appearing in the road anytime soon. And then there is peoples desires being trampled on all in the name of business and a government that does not listen but will when it's too late as always.
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