The decline of European manufacturing and the rise of the BSO

[Takingabreak]

First thing I notice is a mandatory spoke protector. Obviously.

The Dawes Clubman had one of those along with an rrp of £850. Crazy times...

 

[bikeworkshop]

The Dawes Clubman had one of those along with an rrp of £850. Crazy times...

You're too harsh on the clubman - a reynolds 520 frame plus carbon fork could cost you 850 alone now!

First thing I notice is a mandatory spoke protector. Obviously.

Don't forget the derailleur protector too:

 

[bikeworkshop]

The spoke guard and derailleur protector are crucial on a bike that isn't professionally set up, and delivered to the door by a cheap courier!

 

[ferrus]

Oi! I’ve got a derailleur guard on my Xizang. It’s titanium

 

[bikeworkshop]

Oi! I’ve got a derailleur guard on my Xizang. It’s titanium

Post a pic - we don't believe you!
(Tubular ti, I hope)

 

[ferrus]

Bit like this. Weighs loads!

 

[Takingabreak]

You're too harsh on the clubman - a reynolds 520 frame plus carbon fork could cost you 850 alone now!

Don't forget the derailleur protector too:View attachment 907980

I really like the frame, it seems nicely made with a quality paint finish, it's just where costs are saved that irritates me, not just with the Dawes but with bikes in general. I find it irksome that the components that are most difficult to change for non tinkering cyclists are the ones that manufacturers skimp on, headset, bottom bracket and hubs. I don't have anything against the clubman, it's the first bike I could reach in the man cave to list for sale, others will follow and if the clubman doesn't sell then I'd happily upgrade some parts and keep it.

 

[bagpuss]

I have a good mate who rides anything . It does not matter how cheap and heavy it is . He did coast to coast on a bike could best describe as scaffolding poles with bits attached. He Rode up the hill from Robins Hood bay without stopping , i have never seen him struggle, what ever he rides. It really pisses me off .

 

[legrandefromage]

Was in Evans a while ago and got told off for pointing out the crapiest nastiest 50p headset I'd ever seen on on a £1500 tourer

 

[Takingabreak]

I was checking ebay earlier to see if there was any nibbles on the Dawes when this Cinelli appeared like magic.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/167053029894?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110013&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIMRXI&ao=1&asc=277528&meid=a89d59a3d0da41b89ad5b1b4b84ea560&pid=102505&rk=4&rkt=4&itm=167053029894&pmt=1&noa=1&pg=4375194&algv=OrganicPersonalizedAllDeals&brand=Cinelli&_trksid=p4375194.c102505.m170381&_trkparms=parentrq:a71110761930a8cf451129d1ffff3760|pageci:1e20c576-b580-11ef-a1a1-da7db4a639a8|iid:1|vlpname:vlp_homepage

I thought, now that is a bit of me, it's like a "modern" Dawes Clubman and not a bad price at £899. Then I checked out the rrp of £1799 followed by spotting the low end headset, hubs and bottom bracket.

EDIT - and check out those cable disc brakes