The BEST RIDING BIKES...what's your top three of all time ?
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It's the 3 bikes that i had/have the most fun with.
Difficult to choose between the Yo and the Fat Ti..
A Nuke Ti, Sharp, fast, good climer
Serotta ti-max.. Amazing Bike, perfect Build quality
Impossible to make a top 1,2,3.. So these are top 3 .. No particular order
M-Power":2yd65lh2 said:Defiant & Mike Muz...c'mon please why why why those bikes and in that order ???
It's the 3 bikes that i had/have the most fun with.
Difficult to choose between the Yo and the Fat Ti..
A Nuke Ti, Sharp, fast, good climer
Serotta ti-max.. Amazing Bike, perfect Build quality
Impossible to make a top 1,2,3.. So these are top 3 .. No particular order
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1, Mountain Goat WTR. It's compliant but not noodly, and just pushes me on. It feels like it can climb anything.
2, 853 Hot, similar to the WTR but a less impressive climber.
3, DBR Axis Titanium. A do it all bike for me. It can handle anything confidently. Part of that is the components I'm sure, it's got ti forks, stem, bars, seat post, etc. It's comfy without being a flexy mess, the power transfer is still great.
My Yo Eddy left me cold. It was too stiff for me, but I'm only 67kg. Likewise my Cats Wiskas, but that was built for someone heavier I'm sure. At the other end, my Vit T2 was too flexy.
1, Mountain Goat WTR. It's compliant but not noodly, and just pushes me on. It feels like it can climb anything.
2, 853 Hot, similar to the WTR but a less impressive climber.
3, DBR Axis Titanium. A do it all bike for me. It can handle anything confidently. Part of that is the components I'm sure, it's got ti forks, stem, bars, seat post, etc. It's comfy without being a flexy mess, the power transfer is still great.
My Yo Eddy left me cold. It was too stiff for me, but I'm only 67kg. Likewise my Cats Wiskas, but that was built for someone heavier I'm sure. At the other end, my Vit T2 was too flexy.
Your last point is key and we have to assume most set ups were right for us. RB members are mostly experts on their bikes and getting things right... There are certain optimum geometry settings to make a bike perform best at some tasks like climbing or descending. Then there's optimum geometry to do all things pretty well. I saw a comment on FB from a Roberts DOGS BOLX owner who bought it second hand. It had been custom built for somebody else and he complained of 'frequency shake' and scary instability at a certain speed. :shock: Doesn't make a DB a bad bike though.[/quote]
The trouble is not everyone does build/assemble a bike right, Axle lengths etc, gearing ratios, handlebars and stem can be very experimental ( I guess we all learn at different speeds and something new every day, and its a learning curve all the time ).
Ref the DOGS BOLOX, handbuilt for a rider or Handbuilt Mass produced Fat Chance with a set platform, it should still ride like a proper bike (so to speak) regardless.
I would think something was out of balance either with the rider or with the assembly or choices of assembly, Unless the fabricator had a really really off day. Again it comes down to far too many variables,
Even Time will play its part, the condition of the frame, how far you will go with it to get it right to ride, if it is a bent BoLOx or a Rusty Fat, again variables.
The trouble is not everyone does build/assemble a bike right, Axle lengths etc, gearing ratios, handlebars and stem can be very experimental ( I guess we all learn at different speeds and something new every day, and its a learning curve all the time ).
Ref the DOGS BOLOX, handbuilt for a rider or Handbuilt Mass produced Fat Chance with a set platform, it should still ride like a proper bike (so to speak) regardless.
I would think something was out of balance either with the rider or with the assembly or choices of assembly, Unless the fabricator had a really really off day. Again it comes down to far too many variables,
Even Time will play its part, the condition of the frame, how far you will go with it to get it right to ride, if it is a bent BoLOx or a Rusty Fat, again variables.
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I've won two retro category races on the Scott! May be a mass produced frame, but is still Tange Prestige, TIG welded, and with a horizontal top tube. Like The P22
Maybe psychological, but the 1 1/8" front end also gives me more confidence than the 1" of the other two, especially on technical/downhill sections.
Heavier Bonty feels more planted than the lighter Ritchey.
All very nice though, I hasten to add. And the two I have left, will see me out.
Mike
I've won two retro category races on the Scott! May be a mass produced frame, but is still Tange Prestige, TIG welded, and with a horizontal top tube. Like The P22
Maybe psychological, but the 1 1/8" front end also gives me more confidence than the 1" of the other two, especially on technical/downhill sections.
Heavier Bonty feels more planted than the lighter Ritchey.
All very nice though, I hasten to add. And the two I have left, will see me out.
Mike
M-Power
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Another interesting comparison between so called 'production' bikes and low volume boutique manufacturers. If the same materials are used eg Tange Prestige and similar geometry and they are tig welded properly ( my fave is parallel top tube style ) then can anybody honestly tell the difference in the ride ? That's the $64M question !
Mike Muz said it..the word is Confidence. That's critical when you are descending hard ground at an uncomfortable speed with canti brakes and you can see the dreaded deep ruts up ahead !
Another interesting comparison between so called 'production' bikes and low volume boutique manufacturers. If the same materials are used eg Tange Prestige and similar geometry and they are tig welded properly ( my fave is parallel top tube style ) then can anybody honestly tell the difference in the ride ? That's the $64M question !
Mike Muz said it..the word is Confidence. That's critical when you are descending hard ground at an uncomfortable speed with canti brakes and you can see the dreaded deep ruts up ahead !
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