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i finished building the arp and to be honest its ok but i dont like the ti flex i like steel and my bikes to be riders so im willing to swap it for a nice steel or alu frame something like a 17" steel 853 killi flyer or klien or somthing like that a nice rocky moutain as long its 17" with 22" top tube (poss longer) im intrested heres the ti frame anyone got an orange with a 11/8th headtube like a c16r id conider one of those as i liked my c16r a lot wish id kept it :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: