State of the industry: a running thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Just to say, to actually have £10k coming in 'next month' you'd need to be earning over £200k, that's only working on Tax and NI, ignoring any (really nice) pensions etc.

100K 'take home' is probably about 5k a month real take home.
That 1.5k a month mortgage/rent, the £500 for the tesla and the other £900 for the RR SUV to take the kids to school in doesn't leave them much to buy food and the 1k school fees...
 
Last edited:
@FluffyChicken yes you're right in regards to my maths, should have thought about it a bit more, based on the bills this particular person was moaning about, he must be on £10,000 in his hand a month, he was in the local brewery telling us what his mortgage, child payment etc was and was upset that he "didn't have any money" and had still spent almost £4000 on 2 bikes, all inside a 4 week period. cry me bloody river.
 
Splatter Paint said:
Still £2k but much more realistic price wise. Interesting drop outs to allow a Gates belt.

The Moots potential buyer is definitely living in a different world.

https://olsenbikes.co.uk/products/swan-trail-single-speed-titanium-mtb-bike
Click to expand...

While we are straying a bit off-topic, and I do get what you are saying, you must know for sure Moots have always punched high. The re-sell value of a Moots compared to much else is worth considering in the value equation. Day in and day out riding on the Moots over several years and then re-selling would I think beat the Swan. The Swan is very nice, but I bet my bottom dollar it won't hold it's value like the Moots.
 
Yeah, for MTB Moots has had a strong name / following. This article from 2021 is interesting. 60% of what they sell is gravel and <2,000 frames a year.

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/moots-titanium-bikes
I wonder how they feel about the current climate? Maybe Moots customers are not like those that drop $10k on a road bike only for it to be passe 18 months later. As in, the rider really wants a Moots, not just something bling and therefore, they’ll get through a downturn on brand loyalty?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Woz
Woz said:
While we are straying a bit off-topic, and I do get what you are saying, you must know for sure Moots have always punched high. The re-sell value of a Moots compared to much else is worth considering in the value equation. Day in and day out riding on the Moots over several years and then re-selling would I think beat the Swan. The Swan is very nice, but I bet my bottom dollar it won't hold it's value like the Moots.
Click to expand...

Maybe but you can buy the Swan, and keep 8K in the bank. Even if you sell the Swan for 50% off, you walk away with 9K.

Worth bearing in mind that no Moots has sold for more than a couple of grand on eBay recently (ie 50-80% depreciation).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Back
Top