So a "gravel" fits somewhere between a randonneuse and a touring bike, geometry wise.
What about a monstercross? I always thought it was a front susser hardtail with drop bars. But some folks use this name for a rigid MTB with drop bars.
I don't mean Tourers don't exist as bikes and riders in the americas, but as the Marketing Concept.
Early 2000s in the UK, tourers like the Raleigh Randonneur and CB Dalesman were very sporadic, and then the Dawes Galaxy got wound up
- and i don't think there was any marketing of them beyond touring specific publications - I.e. playing to a captive market.
And then US brands like Surly and Salsa brought the steel comfort distance bike back into the mainstream, with new riders encouraging fresh design ideas to get us to where we are today.
While we're back at the Committee stage, I'd like to bring to the attention of those present that a third of US roads are unpaved, as opposed to perhaps 5% in the UK.
There are only a few areas of the UK where you can ride all day without touching tarmac.
so is this a gravel bike too? - seen here getting dirty on a recent Monsal Head outing ...
...and before I restored it, in near original 1980s spec with deerhead groupo and enough clearance for fat 700C tyres
I looked at it as more of an early cyclo cross bike tbh but it rather fits the descriptions of what people describe as gravel albeit this predates fat aluminium tubing and sloping top tubes.
I dispute the assertion that all UK rides involve tarmac - not if you live in/near a national park like the peak district.