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Bike weight doesn’t make huge difference on range. Total system weight might (ie rider + bike + cargo) but any potential savings are a pretty small part of that.
Range is more effected by the power level you use and how steep the hills are.
Have drained it in 20 miles at Comrie using emtb mode, but did 28 at Dunkeld in tour and still had 2 bars left (out of five).
Bike weight doesn’t make huge difference on range. Total system weight might (ie rider + bike + cargo) but any potential savings are a pretty small part of that.
Range is more effected by the power level you use and how steep the hills are.
Have drained it in 20 miles at Comrie using emtb mode, but did 28 at Dunkeld in tour and still had 2 bars left (out of five).
Bound to make a bit of difference i would have thought, but as you say howe much exactly is likely not to be a great deal. But I do love to 'Upgarde' if noto it keeps the mind and hands busy 
New bike excitement. Hmmm last new in box bike ive ever had i think was the 1995 Cannondale M200. From then its been seconds, thirds and likely sevenths
but yeah, good to get something new for a change.
New bike excitement. Hmmm last new in box bike ive ever had i think was the 1995 Cannondale M200. From then its been seconds, thirds and likely sevenths
but yeah, good to get something new for a change.
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Interesting but a hell of a lot of moola - then again you get what you pay for I suppose.
I'm not at the Ebike stage yet but no doubt I will be before too long. I've oggled a few in Halfrauds then immidiately run a mile looking for mind bleach - ugley fekkers they are :shock:
These guys at FLX on the other hand, I'm quite fond of....
https://cyclingtips.com/2020/04/meet-th ... n-dollars/
Interesting but a hell of a lot of moola - then again you get what you pay for I suppose.
I'm not at the Ebike stage yet but no doubt I will be before too long. I've oggled a few in Halfrauds then immidiately run a mile looking for mind bleach - ugley fekkers they are :shock:
These guys at FLX on the other hand, I'm quite fond of....
https://cyclingtips.com/2020/04/meet-th ... n-dollars/
Or not, really. And this has been the big problem for me the canniest of Scots.
The example is this scott is 4 1/2K For that you get a 2nd bottom RS or Suntour(Gahhhh)fork, a standard shock, basic wheels and mid range brakes.
Compare that to an out and out mtb. Same money or a couple of hundred more, you get a retail £900 fork(fox factory) a £400 shock and pretty much the same 12 spd eagle shifter/mech and slightly higher brakes.
So when you add approximate cost of battery and motor, the cost just doesnt make sense. Almost like buy the lesser and the cash mark up has to be a thousand, maybe more :?
Hence me wanting the full on mtb, just basically because the parts far exceed the lesser bike(i say lesser, but you know what I mean)
Im not 20 yr old any more
so what Im buying is probably best suited, its just the spec/cost between the two frigging annoys me.Bosch battery is £700, charger £170 and even the last gen motor is £700. That’s over £1500 in those parts alone.
Anyway, nothing you buy is just the total of parts cost. You also need to recoup r&d cost. The modern MTB is pretty well evolved. There’s maybe minor alterations but the basic designs last a few years at least. Ebikes are evolving and changing every year and this costs money.
Look at the early days of MTB suspension. The original Rock Shox cost £300. Compare them to what you can buy for £300 now.
Anyway, nothing you buy is just the total of parts cost. You also need to recoup r&d cost. The modern MTB is pretty well evolved. There’s maybe minor alterations but the basic designs last a few years at least. Ebikes are evolving and changing every year and this costs money.
Look at the early days of MTB suspension. The original Rock Shox cost £300. Compare them to what you can buy for £300 now.
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With me clubby its bang for buck, and its that way due to being unemployed, so everything I buy is thought out left, right up down, sideways
and always try to find the best for the cheapest, even if its got a couple of niggles or missing something you can replaceeg -
New obviously.I got a set of OX 2x10 shifters that retail at 200, I paid 60, or the xo rear mech again retails at about 200, I paid again 60, or 63. My favourite buffalo shirt cycling edition, retails at 180, I paid 70, and so on and so forth.
So compare the two bikes im looking at, and probably in the new year opt for the Focus. The scott has a suntour fork(or a basic recon)- nobody here's going to be content looking at that in their bike room(You all have bike rooms dont you ?
)when for the same outlay it could be a fox 34, or an X-fusion shock, compared to a FOX Float DPS as also on the Focus Thron 6.9. Then theres the mostly XT kit on the focus, compared to an xt rear mech and thats all she wrote there on the Scott.DT Swiss wheelset on the focus, and a dropper too. On the Scott review a few said the lack of the dropper on the scott was one of the bikes cons.
The geometry is much the same, and the Focus company site does list the Thron as more the sit up and beg comfort rider position, and also lists trekking, commuting and mountainbiking etc as its projected usage.
Far more ride reviews on the focus than the scott.
Motor/batteries are the same, so nothing to compare there, though the thron is 85nm to the scotts 75nm.
Plus the focus looks the business and the scott is styled on something your grandad would consider. its 2kg lighter too.
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I did notice that Jamie, but I see the thron 6.8 does, so a rack is available and im more than sure I could retrofit something. Even make it, or even a post mounted. Its really to make it easy for me to do my daily shop, as im not buying shopping for a week or two, rather a day or two.
Fu**ing glue the fu**ing thing on if I have to
Fu**ing glue the fu**ing thing on if I have to
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If riding off road for fun, thrills and adventure is your bag then the 2 ebikes shown make sense to me. If getting the weekly shop in on 2 wheels requires power I'd go motorbike. Admittedly you can't, or at least should not keep your motorbike in your flat. However motorbike plus insurance, road tax, mot and training/licence combined can be had for less than one of those ebikes. I understand your arguments Dyna but you don't strike me as a serious offroader. Those bikes are overkill on tarmac and unless your riding down a serious flight of steps a high spec fork seems overkill too. I think you can be a canny'r scot than those choices.
Not doing you down though, it's your hard saved moolah, what you spend it on is your choice
If riding off road for fun, thrills and adventure is your bag then the 2 ebikes shown make sense to me. If getting the weekly shop in on 2 wheels requires power I'd go motorbike. Admittedly you can't, or at least should not keep your motorbike in your flat. However motorbike plus insurance, road tax, mot and training/licence combined can be had for less than one of those ebikes. I understand your arguments Dyna but you don't strike me as a serious offroader. Those bikes are overkill on tarmac and unless your riding down a serious flight of steps a high spec fork seems overkill too. I think you can be a canny'r scot than those choices.
Not doing you down though, it's your hard saved moolah, what you spend it on is your choice
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