RINGLE EXPERT REQUIRED!! URGENT!!

[Charlieboy28]

i would go with what was said about the letters being in italic/slanted on this and modern ringle stems ,

but again if it was OEM and prodiced in numbers i would have thought they would be far more common

 

[scant]

the logo is etched in and what i would call lazer etched, not sure you can see them in the pictures but the logo is made up of vertical lines, so its not acid etched or engraved

it looks spark eroded.

 

[Charlieboy28]

and is that a cheap process? if they were doing fakes why not just paint or stickers seems a lot of hassle

thats a good point, erm forgot what its called now, why spark erode a logo, if someones gonna spot it right away as fake coz all other genuine logo's are painted or stuck on ,and if you was going to go to all that trouble ,you would make sure you got the right lettering and style and not copy the later style of Ringle lettering and Font

 

[stevetait]

Ask elite504 matey

 

[Drewson]

Don't think Ringle ever made a stem other than the Zooka, I stand to be corrected though.

Don't forget the rare but very nice early Ringle Holey Stem......but that's a moot point here i guess....

Yup, definitely ask Elite504....

 

[Geoff]

I'd forgotten all about those! 'Evolution'. Hmmm, looks more like devolution to me. How much cheaper do they look than a Zooka?! :x

 

[elite504]

Good debate going here guys, and yes, as per all the arguments, this is not a Ringlé-Components product. From the very early days, the first Ringlé product (the trail stem, see the link in my signature), the design of the products being knee and chest friendly was always a high priority. It meant other more expensive designs were utilised, but the product was always as body safe as possible in a crash. If you check out the mombat site, the original Trail advert is scanned ( http://mombat.org/Ringle.htm ).

The zooka stem was always retained with a hidden pinch, never a split clamp. Early Zooka (and the hubs) were stickered from the factory. Just with the time it took to apply the stickers, and the high quality control that rejected any product with stickers that were not straight, eventually there was a migration to laser marking on these products (it was already in use on the Moby). This migration was around 1995. There is what we know as genine ringle product that is laser marked, lots of it.

The Logo went italic around 1997. The last catalogue year of Ringlé stuff that is "old-skool". Sun Ringlé took over, but Geof Ringlé stayed on for a year plus as a consultant, and stock moved from New Jersey to Indiana IIRC, and production began to migrate overseas.
I lose the plot here.
I know Sun suff used split clamps on the likes of the evolution stem, and there was a move away from the design of the zooka, as they didn't want to be dealing with replacement stem faceplates and stuff, so they underlined a new beginning. Understandably, Sun didn't want to be responsible for legacy product that they had nothing to do with, and understandably, they wanted to essentially be buying the brand.

This is not a Ringlé components product. Someone has obviously gone to a lot of effort to laser mark it (but if you have access to the kit, and we have laser markers where I work, its not a difficult thing to do).
It could be a Sun-Ringlé product. I don't know so much about this product era.

Hope this helps.
see the signature links below for some additional pix/info if this helps

 

[stevetait]

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[Charlieboy28]

statement of intent or declaration of war,lol

"Q:This is a fake stem, I will report appropriatly. Verified by a friend of Geof Ringle himself!"

and it has not been confirmed as a fake stem it has been confirmed as a not Ringle Components Zooka Stem

so im still not telling any lies,lol

nahh i give up, will wait and see what mr hotgolf says.lol

have posted a response