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Question about Enduro bikes
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gradeAfailure
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I take it you mean Enduro? If so, then the meaning of Enduro in this instance is somewhat different to that of old.
Old Enduro - long distance off-road endurance events
New Enduro - events/races where only the downhills are times
The new breed of Enduro bikes are typically 160mm travel, slack angles, 1x drivetrain, dropper post - basically designed to get downhill as fast as possible whilst still retaining some semblance of pedalability, not for churning out the miles in comfort.
I take it you mean Enduro? If so, then the meaning of Enduro in this instance is somewhat different to that of old.
Old Enduro - long distance off-road endurance events
New Enduro - events/races where only the downhills are times
The new breed of Enduro bikes are typically 160mm travel, slack angles, 1x drivetrain, dropper post - basically designed to get downhill as fast as possible whilst still retaining some semblance of pedalability, not for churning out the miles in comfort.
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The term "Enduro Bike" covers a wide range of full-sus bikes these days, ranging from 120-160mm of travel at each end (and most commonly with 27.5" wheels) , so basically sitting between trail bikes and downhill bikes, although the lines are very blurred.
My own bike is 150mm travel front and 125mm rear. The Scottish Enduri series has a "Hardtail" category if that's your thing.
They go downhill better than xc or trail bikes, but you can at least pedal them uphill unlike most dh bikes, I've used mine on longer rides too, tbh it rides like a trail bike for the most part.
I watched a GMBN video on YouTube the other day on "what bike climbs the best" and fat bikes and xc came out equal 1st, with the enduro bike coming last, no surprises there, although most "Enduro" bikes are no real slouches on the uphills.
Personally I can happily bimble up the hills if it means I can tackle the downhills a bit harder, I find that's where I have the most fun.
The term "Enduro Bike" covers a wide range of full-sus bikes these days, ranging from 120-160mm of travel at each end (and most commonly with 27.5" wheels) , so basically sitting between trail bikes and downhill bikes, although the lines are very blurred.
My own bike is 150mm travel front and 125mm rear. The Scottish Enduri series has a "Hardtail" category if that's your thing.
They go downhill better than xc or trail bikes, but you can at least pedal them uphill unlike most dh bikes, I've used mine on longer rides too, tbh it rides like a trail bike for the most part.
I watched a GMBN video on YouTube the other day on "what bike climbs the best" and fat bikes and xc came out equal 1st, with the enduro bike coming last, no surprises there, although most "Enduro" bikes are no real slouches on the uphills.
Personally I can happily bimble up the hills if it means I can tackle the downhills a bit harder, I find that's where I have the most fun.
gradeAfailure
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The current crop of "enduro" bikes were, I suppose, born out of what was termed "all-mountain" bikes - bikes that were able to tackle as wide a range of terrain as possible; built burly enough for everything short of World Cup downhill courses but still able to be pedalled uphill on all-day big-mountain rides. My Specialized Pitch Pro is probably a typical example (in stock form): 150mm travel front&rear, slack(ish) angles for stability on testing terrain, big rotors, wide bars, 2x9 drivetrain.
Since Enduro has become a serious competition series (see the EWS), enduro bikes have taken this a step further with 1x drivetrains reducing the chance of dropping a chain when going for it on a stage, dropper posts to keep flow and momentum on undulating stages, and so on.
They are immensely capable, and better than you'd think at getting uphill, but a proper enduro race bike would be compromised as a true all-rounder given that its primary aim is to descend as fast as possible at the expense of climbing efficiency between stages. Call it the "winch and plummet" effect, if you will. They seem to be the fastest growing sector though, so there's obviously something in it.
Dan Atherton nailing Stage 5 of the Enduro World Series in Whistler; witness his speed at 4m15s onwards! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StPeEgz5Cfo
PS. The Ghost ASX is a trail bike. From the 2013 range, the enduro bike would be the Cagua/650B
Since Enduro has become a serious competition series (see the EWS), enduro bikes have taken this a step further with 1x drivetrains reducing the chance of dropping a chain when going for it on a stage, dropper posts to keep flow and momentum on undulating stages, and so on.
They are immensely capable, and better than you'd think at getting uphill, but a proper enduro race bike would be compromised as a true all-rounder given that its primary aim is to descend as fast as possible at the expense of climbing efficiency between stages. Call it the "winch and plummet" effect, if you will. They seem to be the fastest growing sector though, so there's obviously something in it.
Dan Atherton nailing Stage 5 of the Enduro World Series in Whistler; witness his speed at 4m15s onwards! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StPeEgz5Cfo
PS. The Ghost ASX is a trail bike. From the 2013 range, the enduro bike would be the Cagua/650B
gradeAfailure":2pfr9rji said:PS. The Ghost ASX is a trail bike. From the 2013 range, the enduro bike would be the Cagua/650B
Aha! Now we're getting into "is it "Enduro? Bro?"?"
150mm forks, dropper post, 1x drive train says enduro.
26" wheels, "only" 125mm rear travel says Trail.
Witness some of the Ews Pro's using shorter travel bikes on some courses last year.
I guess it's not really as easy as "Trail" or "Enduro", the lines are very blurred, and the cynic in me says it's just another made up category by the manufacturers to shift more/"new" product :roll:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Beginners- ... -2012.html
so its XC for people who can't pedal up hills, and for those who want do more jumpy DH type stuff?
so its XC for people who can't pedal up hills, and for those who want do more jumpy DH type stuff?
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