‘97 is fine, wouldn’t matter which year was chosen. They (well John), could have picked any year and they’d be people upset at it. Should there be ‘97 to ‘07 group/sub forum, possibly, but frankly there’s bigger issues to resolve - bar ends with risers (it’s a no!).
Pre 1997 date, how did that come about
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Cloverleaf
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Exactly. It's all semantics IMO as if it's not related to the latest fad/tech then it's retro to a degree, it just depends what degree is acceptable to the gate keepers.
I'd also add to your 'bigger issues' of people who genuinely think V brakes are better than discs having ridden one of my old bikes in anger on some technical stuff. I liked the light weight and fast rolling but very much not the brakes that were either off, or locked, or the suspension that was either up or down with nothing in between. I miss the memories and the times, and love how the bikes looked but not the tech, not even slightly.
bikeworkshop
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We weren't having less fun, but our bikes didn't work so well.
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Very true, and as we didn't know any better we really didn't care, or at least our rose tinted specs would have us believe that! Personally I remember swearing at every puncture, snapped chain, blown damper, cracked frame, or even when I just couldn't slow myself down but really, really needed to (I never took the lack of brake performance as a sign you shouldn't push so hard). But that was all part of the fun and the learning, and I certainly wouldn't change it, but nor would I go back to it for a lot of my riding. I love that modern stuff can be ridden hard, washed, lubed and put away, to bring it out and do it again with zero maintenance or replacement of parts. Maybe that should be a barometer of cut offs; how frequently things broke?We weren't having less fun, but our bikes didn't work so well.
I think for the riding a lot of us were doing twenty plus years ago they were fine, and if the riding being done hasn't changed then there's less need to change tech, but as I've said in other threads, I like cycling but I also love going down harder stuff that's steep and techy where the tech allows you more scope for trail development and that's why I also love the good of modern tech. Not all of it mind, a lot is superfluous marketing fluff but then wasn't that always the case? It's just more MTBs are sold these days so there's a lot more scope for many, many more standards and bad ideas.- Feedback
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Punctures still happen, frames still snap, chains still pop.
Nothing has changed
Social Media however, that is responsible for what you ride now
Nothing has changed
Social Media however, that is responsible for what you ride now
Totoro
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Ahem, is RB social media?
bikeworkshop
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Totoro
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It was a genuine question, for me I'd say it kind of is but I know not such things. Also given that I bought one of my bikes from LGF I'd say he is partly bloomin responsible for what I rideAnd the snake ate its own tail
He was all like, I just can't move house with 23 bikes, 22 I can manage
Scott-S
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It was those bloody bike mags in the 90's that are responsible for my love of the early Kona's and why I have one now
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RB predates instafart, facefart, maybe even youfart
We all met up, laughed at each other's inadequaces, smelt each other's manly musk and poked fun during the aftermath threads
What happens now is that everyone laughs at your 26 wheels
We all met up, laughed at each other's inadequaces, smelt each other's manly musk and poked fun during the aftermath threads
What happens now is that everyone laughs at your 26 wheels
