Paypal Fees

For the "trusted" angle, I'd say that the feedback forum on here is a pretty good guide. Clearly, this means people will have had to have traded a few times before but it's a question of the risks you are willing to take.
 
Re: Paypal

Carsten":3o1isl7w said:
i-am-iron-man":3o1isl7w said:
money back.

Do not use Paypal - you are throwing money away - use bank transfer.

yeah, especially for international transactions!

carsten

Not sure if there's sarcasm there, so just in case ;) . UK banks like to charge for international bank transfers. It costs me £18 with HSBC If I pay the sender and receiver fees. It's therefore often cheaper to pay with paypal, and offer to pay the sellers fees.

We should add a list here to see which UK banks have the lowest fees / charges for international transfers.

As for trust. I've spent thousands here buying stuff, and I think I have 2 feedback as I never sell anything (much to my wife's annoyance). People who've been here a while will know who they're prepared to use this approach with.

As for using a CC to fund paypal. The fees are higher but as a buyer I have recourse with my CC company should something go wrong, which is why I fund my PP account from a card rather than directly from a bank account.
 
jez-4-bikes-max":2hal3pnh said:
I thought bank international transactions were free up to a certain amount?

Mainland European banks are a lot more enlightened. Your bank in the UK chooses whether there'll be a charge.

I haven't done an international bank transfer for a few months, but last time I had the charge from HSBC. I know they're (The BBA) talking about changing it, but not yet as far as I'm aware.
 
Im with HSBC:

This is a message I recieved back in Feb:


Inward Payment

Thank you for your e-message received 21 February 2008.

Please note that payments can be made to your HSBC UK account from overseas via Inward Payment. You will need to provide the payer with your IBAN, SWIFT/BIC code and your specific account details.

Please find below the details as requested:

IBAN :xxxxxxxx
SWIFT CODE / BIC CODE :xxxxx
Sort Code :xxxxxxx
Account Number :xxxxxx


Further to your query, following are the charges for inward payments made to your account:

- Payments payable to an account in the same currency
as the payment (e.g. Sterling transfer to Sterling
account):

Up to GBP100 equivalent - FREE
Over GBP100 equivalent - GBP6 per item
For euro payment from EU, under EUR12,500 - quoting
BIC & IBAN - FREE

- Payments payable to an account held in a different
currency from that of the payment (e.g. Japanese Yen
transfer to Sterling account):

Up to GBP100 equivalent - FREE
Over GBP100 equivalent - GBP8 per item
 
...off to check my statements. I bought some taperlites from Germany around then and got charged. Do you use the "international transfer" on the internet banking site?

It could also be a different account with different Ts and Cs.
 
yeah, i tried to be "sarcastic" triggered by the bold statement. international bank transfers usually are more expensive than paypal, at least up to certain amounts. bank transfers within the euro zone are free per law if you use BIC and IBAN, otherwise the bank may charge. bank transfers from e.g. germany to the US used to be pretty expensive and PP was cheaper up to around $1000. don't know if that changed in the past 2 years. and remember that sender's AND receiver's bank may charge so if your bank says incoming money is free it doesn't mean that the sender will be charged. also it needs to be specified by the sender who carries the charge - sender, receiver or split between both.

carsten
 
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