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Orange have a section on their website that says when the upcoming demo days are.
New bikes are Huuuge! Zaskar trigger warning!
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xtaffa
Gary Fisher Fan
Could be busy next summer! Also last tea break turned up this https://richmondcyclecentre.co.uk/shop/surly-krampus/ - the bike I've had some big questions about for some time now: Think I may be getting on a train up to that there London...
The main thing about modern bikes... the fit is quite different. Twice now I 'knew' my size by heart when I went to buy a newer bike and bought something completely wrong. Once was going from a 90s fit to a 2012 bike, but I did it again buying a used modern hardtail. When I went to buy a used ibis I was luckily informed enough to buy based on the size I needed so chose the XL over the L even though I've never ridden an XL in my life - that particular model had a stupid short top tube.
Is true the mtb fit pendulum has swung strangely in the past decade but there's a lot to like.
My advice is before buying you should read this guys fit theories. When riding standing up (descending, manuals or climbing steeps) there's an important dimension called 'RAD' that nicely encapsulates how your body can efficiently apply force to the bars.
https://www.leelikesbikes.com/rad-bike-setup.html
Modern fit is a matter of getting RAD correct while also having a comfortable sit position.
I can't say any of the various rad type fit equations are perfect for everyone but they magically worked well for me. When I discovered rad I went and measured my bikes and found they were ALL within a few mm of each other: road bikes and mtb. I think thats pretty cool and is the reason I'm an advocate.
WRT to buying or even demoing a bike. Unless you're super lucky most bike shops have no idea how to properly fit a bike. You should show up with your RAD measurement and demo bikes that come close. Easy for store to swap stems.
What you'll find is that the bike feels strangely 'good' but you won't know why until you learn to properly ride a modern bike - certain amount of trust you'll need to learn before you can take advantage of modern suspension, tires and short chainstays.
Darren66
Dirt Disciple
As we are a similar height, I think an xl wouldn't be big enough, this is my xxl 29er.
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What model is that out of interest ?
Darren66
Dirt Disciple
x caliber 9, I believe the Trek Marlin and X caliber range are offered in a xxl, but the Roscoe just an xl.
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torqueless
Senior Retro Guru
Yes just to the hoods. Isn't it interesting?
Bike fit has sure come a long way. Remember when tt length was static and we fit using st length? Barbaric!
