My Bontrager just died!

John":2jrpp72q said:
billinjah":2jrpp72q said:
:LOL: im a certified welder i could exact a repair on any thickness of steel that was presented to me, as long as they are certified by some regulating body they will be able to repair without causing damage to surrounding area. Then it can be ground down and sorted more prettily at a later date. Im not saying i would recommend this normally but he sounds desperate!

Billinjah, did you read last months singletrack? In particular the interview with scott nicol and his opinion on certified welders?

same comments were picked up again in this months STW by DW. I've got welder friends who work for B.A (airline not the A-Team :LOL: ) & he was mega impressed by early merlin welding :)
... not that I'm picking on any1s unseen welding talents :roll: ... just that as mentioned previously above, thin tubed bikes can be a more specialist job :)
 
Right, I want a nice clean fight; no kicking, gouging or punches below the belt. Billinjah watch Scant in the clinches; he likes using his teeth.

SECONDS OUT! ROUND ONE!









I'll get me coat.
 
I haven't read whats been said in the article but the welding on bike frames is one step away from making the tea to a decent welder :?

There's welders and then there's welders :) the bloke who welds cars in the garage down the road is a mechanic who can stick a few bits of plate steel together :? in 99% of cases he'll have no qualifications at all :shock:

Then there's the general welder who has probably done an apprenticeship and gone to college on day release for a couple of years to get his level 1 and 2 city and guilds and spends his time welding gates, bridges and general structural steelwork :)

Then there's real welders :) The top welders are coded pipe welders who work within the Nuclear, petrochemical and aerospace industries who can weld anything you put in front of them :) who for the last 2 years have been sitting in various trenches dug accross the countryside welding the new gas pipeline because the money was so silly :D

The welding on Merlins etc. is very nice but it should be because its a single run fillet weld ( and its all they do ) :? where there's no pressure on you as its not being tested :shock: its the first type of welding you learn after you've mastered a cup of tea :)

I could teach any one of you to weld to the quality on a Merlin within a week :) and if I couldn't it would be because you have the dexterity of a baboon not because its hard :LOL:

How many of you have got frames where a weld ends with a small indentation and a tiny pinhole ? lots I'd guess and thats because it was welded by a baboon who should still be making the tea :)

You might have gathered this gets on my T*TS slightly :LOL:
 
Jones":1j3w1f0v said:
I could teach any one of you to weld to the quality on a Merlin within a week :) and if I couldn't it would be because you have the dexterity of a baboon not because its hard :LOL:

Anyone got a jig lying around? Lets do a tubeset group buy then it's round to Jones' house for a welding course. :idea:
 
Got to agree with Jones, the quality of welding in the bike industry leaves a lot to be desired, even most of the 'high end' stuff.
 
Crell":qloihvjb said:
Jones":qloihvjb said:
I could teach any one of you to weld to the quality on a Merlin within a week :) and if I couldn't it would be because you have the dexterity of a baboon not because its hard :LOL:

Anyone got a jig lying around? Lets do a tubeset group buy then it's round to Jones' house for a welding course. :idea:

I've got all my own gear in a purpose built van so have T.I.G, M.I.G, M.M.A and good old fashioned Oxy+Accetylene gear all ready to go if anyone has a makeshift workshop we can use or just an open area as I have a big tent I use to :)
 

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