Don't know as yet John ,think gatcombe is about 18 miles from daj's ,I'm normally a very early riser but I've already covered 100 miles yesterday and got another 168 to go so will have to see how tired I am in morning .depending on traffic down there in the morning I'd like to get there for 7.30-8am so as to be in a good position to claim Rb base camp but would be good to have some other rber's there to help.if anyone needs to contact me call me on 07958637564 or if there's no signal look out for a T reg silver landrover discovery with a strange ginger goaty beareded dwarf