"Isn't modern bicycle technology absolutely wonderful?"😍

[bikeworkshop]

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Did you speak to Chris?
I'd be interested to hear what they said about it.
Could it be a fake?

 

[Jonny69]

So are those bearings a press fit into the cups on a CK then?

 

[bikeworkshop]

They are factory fitted custom items iirc
They say:
"Our bottom bracket and headset bearings should be serviced in place and not removed from the cups as they are a secure press fit"

 

[Cloverleaf]

So I see my original post on page 1 was quietly but heavily edited/redacted whatever you want to call it.
Which once again, is a form of censorship. It doesn't even say "edited" on it now. But it was.
It was WAY longer than that! Remember this image? Gone. Why?

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I originally wrote WAY more than that. Complaining that this thread was locked.
And, if you recall, this thread was conditional on that thread being unlocked.
And people know it. Please don't treat us like 5-year old children. We're adults!

I created a popular post which is free content (and money in advertising) for you.
You've benefited from this thread, and yet the other one still hasn't been unlocked.

Go on then, lock this thread too when it doesn't start to go the way you want it.

Mountain bike forums are ridiculously over-moderated in my experience. Too many people make complaints about posts, too many don't like it when someone disagrees and rather than having a discussion go crying to moderators, and moderators also have a tendency to love doing things, like editing posts, deleting and locking things as soon as it either goes off at a tangent (here's a hint, conversations do that all the time) or disagrees with someone (in which case discuss it, don't get all petulant like a toddler. I don't know what it is about bike forums in particular that makes it so, I've never noticed it being so pronounced in any other forum other than a few random American ones.

 

[Cloverleaf]

They are factory fitted custom items iirc
They say:
"Our bottom bracket and headset bearings should be serviced in place and not removed from the cups as they are a secure press fit"

CK headsets are definitely good. Originally their servicing requirements were to remove the headset from the frame every year and soak the bearings in heavy gear oil overnight after cleaning, and that always seemed a bit wrong to me as removing headsets constantly can easily damage head tubes, especially given how fragile old ones were. They seem to have changed that recommendation since I last had one over twenty years ago, at least given the service instructions I've come across. However, I would say that if you serviced any well sealed stainless bearing you'd find it'll last a long time. I think with CK though most people don't service them and they do still feel great even after ten plus years.

 

[clubby]

Now a fiddle toy

Or a c**k ring. Suppose they are the same thing though.

 

[Cloverleaf]

That's a surprisingly rare failure in any headset - I've seen far more snapped steerers and headtubes.

I've had a few, but only ever on nearly new headsets so it's 100% been down to manufacturing tolerances where it's been machined too thin. One was on a Race Face Real Seal, a Shimano XT one, and another that I can't remember, perhaps Crank Brothers? It was one I'd been sent to test and lasted I think two runs before failing spectacularly (the replacement went on to do DH race seasons).

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

Or a c**k ring. Suppose they are the same thing though.

The thought may ha crossed my mind...

 

[bikeworkshop]

In the 90s we would always ream a headtube on a new frame before fitting the headset, but we we don't do that now unless it feels wrong or looks bad. Not sure we even got a 44mm reamer

Maybe we should?

I would definitely say modern bikes are built a lot straighter and all the parts threads and diameters are righter than they used to be on average.

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

In the 90s we would always ream a headtube on a new frame before fitting the headset, but we we don't do that now unless it feels wrong or looks bad. Not sure we even got a 44mm reamer

Maybe we should?

I would definitely say modern bikes are built a lot straighter and all the parts threads and diameters are righter than they used to be on average.

I think frame prep has got better from the factory too. Edit sorry you just said that