Is this a real Pat Hanlon?

[Rabu!a]

Hi All. What a fantastic group of experts we have here! I'm confident someone can give me an answer on this:

I have just been given a frame which purports to be a Pat Hanlon, but I have doubts...

From pretty much every image I've seen or forum post I've read, it seems that all PHs have lugs, but this one has none at all.

The frame no. on the BB is 175072. As I understand it, this indicates that the frame was built in 1972. However, from what I've read, PH didn't start using that gothic script on the down tube until a few years later.

Finally, the white banding on the seat tube appears to have been applied by hand. I confess that I don't know if that's normal, or whether the original decals included the banding.

I should say that, in the circumstances in which I was given it, I'm going to keep it and build it up whatever the answer, but I just wanted to know whether it's genuine or not.

 

[juvela]

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accounts have read of her frames indicate that most were done by one builder although there was more than one over time

seat binder detail is something which came into fashion about 1970

shall look forward to reading what our experts have to communicate


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[Foreigner]

Serial number looks correct, and no, yours is not the only lugless frame she 'made'. Do you have forks too? Serial should be stamped on them so we could compare with others.

Lovely frame and perhaps respray hence some inconsistencies about decals. Here is mine

 

[Jonny69]

I’m not a Pat Hanlon expert, but the lack of brazed-on shifter bosses and the cable routing over the bottom bracket is consistent with a frame of that age (i.e. early 70s).

 

[juvela]

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have only had the opportunity to see one example in person

it was a a frame imported to the U.S. by the late cycling historian Andrew Ritchie

he lived for several decades in the community of Berkeley, California and brought it back with him when he returned from a trip home to the U.K.

the year was 1973 and the frameset was a 24 1/2" road model in medium opaque blue with black panels

it was constructed with a full-sloping crown and a Brampton Victor seat cluster; appeared to date from the mid-to-late sixties

he sold it through a cycle shop on the campus of the University of California , Berkeley

at the same time he brought in a Merlin by JRJ/Bob Jackson


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