I was gobsmacked

[old_coyote_pedaller]

Sorry to be argumentative but revving a car isn't a crime, rude yes, very rude in fact, but a crime no. I'm sorry also because I would not be inclined to believe anyone who said they had never gone over the speed limit ever in their driving life, Christ my husband is obsessed about not going over the limit, "30 along here" he'll say to me at 32mph yet funnily enough it's him that got a ticket when he accelerated from a roundabout went over for a couple of seconds, but it was that couple of seconds that was recorded by a hidden rozzer.

I bet most have at some point done similar things as this girl did and have got away with it by the skin of their teeth.

I certainly think she should face some punishment for her actions but I also think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Alison

Did you actually read the article in the link?

She wasn't jailed for revving her engine, but for knocking down a 76y.o. woman who was still on the crossing.
The moron was still staring at the 2 she revved her engine at when she hit the woman on crossing, she was doing 35mph in a 30 limit. Most normal people when approaching a pedestrian crossing will slow down and be prepared to stop when there are people on the crossing. Not her, she was still going as fast as if the crossing and pedestrians weren't there.

If it was my mum or my gran, I'd be waiting for when she got out. 8 months FFS.

 

[The History Man]

Ok back to eyes.

 

[Alison]

Sorry to be argumentative but revving a car isn't a crime, rude yes, very rude in fact, but a crime no. I'm sorry also because I would not be inclined to believe anyone who said they had never gone over the speed limit ever in their driving life, Christ my husband is obsessed about not going over the limit, "30 along here" he'll say to me at 32mph yet funnily enough it's him that got a ticket when he accelerated from a roundabout went over for a couple of seconds, but it was that couple of seconds that was recorded by a hidden rozzer.

I bet most have at some point done similar things as this girl did and have got away with it by the skin of their teeth.

I certainly think she should face some punishment for her actions but I also think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Alison

Did you actually read the article in the link?

She wasn't jailed for revving her engine, but for knocking down a 76y.o. woman who was still on the crossing.
The moron was still staring at the 2 she revved her engine at when she hit the woman on crossing, she was doing 35mph in a 30 limit. Most normal people when approaching a pedestrian crossing will slow down and be prepared to stop when there are people on the crossing. Not her, she was still going as fast as if the crossing and pedestrians weren't there.

If it was my mum or my gran, I'd be waiting for when she got out. 8 months FFS.

I did read it, I read it all.

My brother in law lost his dad and his mum lost her partner. His dad worked as a milkman and every morning very very early he'd go across a traffic lighted crossing, so about the same time every day did a lorry driver, the lorry driver was so used to the lights going green every time he never slowed down ever because he knew they'd turn green, except this particular morning they didn't, but he was going far to fast to stop, drove straight into the milk van killing two occupants and one survived, one of the dead was my brother in laws dad the other was a new dad on his first day of his new job, totally tragic but my mother-in-law never wanted to rip his eyes out, do him in or anything, as much as she was devastated she knew so was the lorry driver, she believed just living with it would be enough of a punishment and I imagine it was.

Sorry but I was brought up never to hate, never to seek revenge as these emotions are more devastating to your life life than an experience itself, and although I have only lost family through disease I have had experiences that most would feel hate for but refused to be consumed by any emotion that causes me more pain than the act that creates them did.

I feel for the family, but I think people are too eager to hang draw and quarter people. I'm beginning to feel I talking like someone of religion I'm not, not for a long. time.

Alison

 

[The History Man]

And an eyebrow.

You make the assumption that everyone lives by the same moral code.

On this sort of thing i'm slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. Now if it was JUST an accident i would be different. But she apparently was maing a statement with her vehicle. I'd be making one with her.

 

[old_coyote_pedaller]

Sorry to be argumentative but revving a car isn't a crime, rude yes, very rude in fact, but a crime no.

I bet most have at some point done similar things as this girl did and have got away with it by the skin of their teeth.

I certainly think she should face some punishment for her actions but I also think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Alison

I did read it, I read it all.
Alison

And you still don't get it, the engine revving as you say isn't a crime, but it was part of a mindset that thought it was OK to intimidate pedestrians on a crossing with your heavy lump of metal doing 35mph. That led directly to killing the woman because she was still staring-out (at 35mph) the 2 she was trying to intimidate. Your example has no relevance to what we are discussing here, sad as it is for all concerned.

 

[The History Man]

I don't even have a conservatory.

Burn her in the town square!

 

[NeilM]

totally tragic but my mother-in-law never wanted to rip his eyes out, do him in or anything, as much as she was devastated she knew so was the lorry driver, she believed just living with it would be enough of a punishment and I imagine it was.

COOL! So by this reckoning I can go out and kill a few folk I don't like and my punishment will be having to live with myself and the knowledge of what I have done...... Yup, I can do that!

What you describe was a tragic accident, an assumption made and an error of judgement with terrible consequences. There is no comparison between that incident and the one involving the angry young woman and elderly lady she killed.

 

[Mike Muz]

The alledged circumstances don't add up to me . Staring out pedestrians and revving your engine , I can kind of picture that , bot not at 30 -35mph . You would simply be going too fast to be able to stare at anyone IMO .
She will have to live with the consequences . That's a punishment of sorts , but I think she should get years inside , and banned for a long time
Mike

 

[Alison]

All willing to comment but no one seems to have read anything I've written, at no point have I said anyone can go out and kill as long as they feel guilty about it, or that she should not suffer the full force of the law, or that she was not driving carelessly, just that we are not all infallible, that any one of us could face something similar at any time, and before you say it won't, there are many people in this world that have said that and ended up in the dock. I cannot judge a person by what I read in the paper or online, it sketches around the situation in a way to cause as much aggression to this woman as possible, I could relate a story from my past and gain sympathy, if the other party did it first I would be hated. the written word is very rarely ever a true reflection of the real event's.

Alison

 

[old_coyote_pedaller]

The alledged circumstances don't add up to me . Staring out pedestrians and revving your engine , I can kind of picture that , bot not at 30 -35mph . You would simply be going too fast to be able to stare at anyone IMO .
She will have to live with the consequences . That's a punishment of sorts , but I think she should get years inside , and banned for a long time
Mike

They add up to me, she dipped her clutch and revved the engine as she approached the crossing staring at the 2 she was trying to intimidate, not seeing the old woman because she was looking elsewhere. Don't see how doing 35mph would prevent her staring at pedestrians on side of road.