The next one on the list (69573) is interesting too, track frame, Campag dropouts, but Mistral style Prugnat I head lugs. this also has the more typical 69 WO stay and integral bolt. Square fork crown on this one.CBguy":pavq7bo7 said:Dave,
Yes, I have been looking at the style of stamping of the Shop frames. It appears for "69" frames until at least #69226 they all have a unique style of large numbers stacked vertically on top of one another across the bottom bracket. I have to suspect this is Reg Collard's unique style. All these bikes fit the bill for frames he would have built as they are all Pros other than #69226 which is an obvious custom tourer he likely built as well.
Your 69441 and as you point out the next one with a photo of numbers (69573) have a different style of stamping i.e. along edge of BB. Collard is said to have retired in 1970 and so I suspect this is further evidence that these particular numbered frames were built after Collard left i.e. later than 1969.
I have sent messages some time back to some of the owners of these other "69" frames requesting pics of BB numbers for further evidence.
Time will tell. We need more frames with good BB photo of numbers and good history (as #69559) to clarify.
Doug
Interestingly it has the same concave DO attachment and the stamping on the BB is the same, particular the 69. Also Riveted head badge and claims to be original paint. I guess this just goes to confirm the wide variation on shop builds based on customer requirements.[/quote][/quote]
My 67 has the same style of stamping.
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