stevek":1ys9ykgc said:In the scenario where you don't have lockout and you're "honking" out the saddle a FS would lose out to a rigid.
I thought we were talking sustained climbing though and thus you're in the saddle unless you're on a single speed or on the black stuff.
If the trails are well groomed smooth items then a hardtail/rigid will be faster, but there is a point though where traction is much more important and stiff light weight bikes are at a disadvantage.
For a lot of the trails I ride my Turner 5 Spot will out climb just about anything and something like the DOGS BOLX is not even close to getting near it. Horses for courses though