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They don't have to wear one, it is their choice.
They don't have to wear one, it is their choice.
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gradeAfailure
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This nonsense again...? Hundreds of people sustain head injuries falling down stairs - do you wear a helmet to walk down stairs? People in car crashes regularly sustain head injuries - do you wear a helmet to drive a car?
Just because other people assess risk differently to you does not make them wrong and you right. The more we insist that cycling is a dangerous activity requiring mandatory protective gear, the more barriers we put up to people wanting to cycle instead of using cars.
Heaven forbid you should ever go to the Netherlands - cycle use is far in excess of what we have here, and virtually no-one wears a helmet. Why? Because low-to-mid speed cycling on good surfaces is an inherently safe activity.
FWIW, I wear a helmet if I'm riding alongside cars, or offroad at faster than running pace. Otherwise, I prefer not to. YMMV.. ;-)
This nonsense again...? Hundreds of people sustain head injuries falling down stairs - do you wear a helmet to walk down stairs? People in car crashes regularly sustain head injuries - do you wear a helmet to drive a car?
Just because other people assess risk differently to you does not make them wrong and you right. The more we insist that cycling is a dangerous activity requiring mandatory protective gear, the more barriers we put up to people wanting to cycle instead of using cars.
Heaven forbid you should ever go to the Netherlands - cycle use is far in excess of what we have here, and virtually no-one wears a helmet. Why? Because low-to-mid speed cycling on good surfaces is an inherently safe activity.
FWIW, I wear a helmet if I'm riding alongside cars, or offroad at faster than running pace. Otherwise, I prefer not to. YMMV.. ;-)
gradeAfailure
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Tragically, all these people are still alive..
Tragically, all these people are still alive..
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More tragically, we don't have road systems like that throughout this country.
I always wear one, so for me, that's the end of this conversation.
Off to look at some bikes on the forum now!
Mike
gradeAfailure":oh8810da said:
Tragically, all these people are still alive..
More tragically, we don't have road systems like that throughout this country.
I always wear one, so for me, that's the end of this conversation.
Off to look at some bikes on the forum now!
Mike
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Also try to avoid thatched cottages with their low doorways.
Yawn. Chestnut.
Yawn. Chestnut.
A helmet is a nice thing to wear when you are way past your prime like me, your bike is 25 years old and you can't remember the right technique to ride but nonetheless you are in the alps once more and going 60km/h down the hill. In this situation my helmet gives me the illusion i might survive this horrible idea.
When i'm riding to the post office to send you some of my old bike stuff to wear a helmet seems pretty useless to me. If i really get hit by a SUV i'm dead anyway. I got no illusions about that.
Talking about helmets another story comes to my mind.
I started snowboarding in 1989 and from one year later on i was working as a snowboard teacher for maybe a decade.
In all these years i saw maybe two or three kids with a concussion but despite training the right falling technique really every weekend some kid managed it to break its wrist. And even after we did info evenings for the parents that wrist injuries could be easily avoided with some protective wrist guards these same parents would keep on buying helmets instead.
I'm no snowboard teacher anymore but from time to time i visit my old school. And from what i saw the average overprotective parents today are investing their money not only in helmets like back in the days anymore. The kids today look like real soldiers in their full body armour. Hexpad underwear, back protectors and so on. The funny part is wrist injuries still seem not to be included in the abstract fears of these parents or maybe it is still not cool to wear some rollerblade wristguards during a snowboard lesson like when i taught one or two of these very same parents how to ride a board...
Helmets can help you to walk away from a fatal situation no doubt.
Mankind on the other hand seems to not be able to walk away from abstract fears. We learn and forget and learn again and forget again. We don't evolve unless we must and i guess nothing we can buy will ever change that.
When i'm riding to the post office to send you some of my old bike stuff to wear a helmet seems pretty useless to me. If i really get hit by a SUV i'm dead anyway. I got no illusions about that.
Talking about helmets another story comes to my mind.
I started snowboarding in 1989 and from one year later on i was working as a snowboard teacher for maybe a decade.
In all these years i saw maybe two or three kids with a concussion but despite training the right falling technique really every weekend some kid managed it to break its wrist. And even after we did info evenings for the parents that wrist injuries could be easily avoided with some protective wrist guards these same parents would keep on buying helmets instead.
I'm no snowboard teacher anymore but from time to time i visit my old school. And from what i saw the average overprotective parents today are investing their money not only in helmets like back in the days anymore. The kids today look like real soldiers in their full body armour. Hexpad underwear, back protectors and so on. The funny part is wrist injuries still seem not to be included in the abstract fears of these parents or maybe it is still not cool to wear some rollerblade wristguards during a snowboard lesson like when i taught one or two of these very same parents how to ride a board...
Helmets can help you to walk away from a fatal situation no doubt.
Mankind on the other hand seems to not be able to walk away from abstract fears. We learn and forget and learn again and forget again. We don't evolve unless we must and i guess nothing we can buy will ever change that.
Stiff_Orange
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Its a personal choice, but last weekend whilst riding a modern bike I came around a corner at speed (20mph+) and discovered some wire fence had fallen into the trails. The barend caught, the bike stopped, I didn't, and landed flat on my back with my head striking the ground with force.
After a minute to catch my breath, I was back on the bike and carried on like nothing had happened, when I later checked my helmet it had cracked from the impact. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet it would have been at least a concussion or even worse, and that would have been terrible for the guys I was with, because I was leading and knew the route.
The moral is use a helmet to avoid ruining a good ride. ;-)
After a minute to catch my breath, I was back on the bike and carried on like nothing had happened, when I later checked my helmet it had cracked from the impact. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet it would have been at least a concussion or even worse, and that would have been terrible for the guys I was with, because I was leading and knew the route.
The moral is use a helmet to avoid ruining a good ride. ;-)
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All this talk of cracked helmets being lifesavers. Helmets are designed to crush to absorb the energy. If it's cracked it's failed.
Aside from that, if someone wants to wear a helmet to go to the shops then fair enough. If someone else doesn't want to wear one dirt jumping, again, fair enough. It's their free choice. There's no need for the name calling and mud slinging. :roll:
Aside from that, if someone wants to wear a helmet to go to the shops then fair enough. If someone else doesn't want to wear one dirt jumping, again, fair enough. It's their free choice. There's no need for the name calling and mud slinging. :roll:
Stiff_Orange
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firedfromthecircus":1bd0loai said:
Modern Helmets are one shot, they are like a crumble zone on a car, they are designed to destroy themselves to protect the occupants.
As I said wearing helmets is personal choice, I would never support a law that forced people to wear them. I just like being able to finish a ride and hit the pub ;-)
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