Growing hostility towards Mountainbikers and Cyclists

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Sadly, there's a growing number who think we're fair targets. Where do these people get these bird-brained ideas that it's OK to do this stuff from?
 
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The degree of f*ckwhittery (believe it or not I just spelt that wrong and autocomplete corrected it! :shock: ) is generally in direct correlation to the price of the vehicle involved...

...the bigger the price tag, the bigger the knob behind the wheel: and age/sex is no longer a barrier either!
 
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Wow - fabulous stuff (never heard of these guys before) - thank you!!

Kind of stumbled over Aphrodite's Child in general searchings to discover more and more obscure musical rarities back through to the 60's. God bless the invention of the internet – it's amazing that after so long, this material is still out there. Aphrodite's Child were formed in Greece around '66 but because of the military dictatorship in place there at the time, they decamped to Paris. Their first big hit 'Rain and Tears' became the unofficial anthem of the iconic '68 French students protests. Much of their work was often melodic/classical based and quite often melancholic but they could still throw in the odd few wild psychedelic numbers like 'Four Horsemen' off the album '666'. They split in the early 70's, with Vangelis going on to do film scores and Demis Roussos turning into the expanding matinee idol of the bored suburban housewife – think 'Abigail's Party'.
 
Well tbh up until a short while ago the main culprits for causing grief round my neck of the woods were private hire taxi drivers and drivers of Suv's but i too have recently noticed an increase of young drivers making life awkward on the roads for cyclist and other drivers and the majority of them are driving nearly new cars ..
 
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Here's example of yet another stock template letter rant about cyclists in tonight's 'Even' Evening Standard. Granted this one has a slightly generous twist at the end but there's usually one or two of these typical arguments every other day in the rag ranging in rabidity.

When was the last time you heard a cyclist use bell? As a pedestrian who walks for 20 minutes twice a day from station to office and back, I see at least 10 infringements of the law by cyclists everyday: from going through red lights, cycling the wrong way up one way streets and on pavements to continuing over a zebra crossing when pedestrians are on it. The mayor and the authorities seem to look after the needs of cyclists but not pedestrians. I'm all for the use of bikes, but safely and in an inclusive way.

Here's another:

IS IT any wonder that the Tube is crammed and dangerous when the roads have been dug up all over London? One cycle superhighway at a time may have been possible with not too much disruption but now we have mayhem: as a result people leave buses and their cars and head down to the Tube. The logistics of it all – overseen by TFL – have been dreadful.

There are so so many ill-informed and flawed points in both of the above that I just don't know where to begin in countering them but frankly, I don't really have enough time in life to answer but you get the picture.

Certainly for starters, I'd ask the first one: 'when was the last time they actually bothered to look out for traffic first before stepping out into the road?'.
 
I stopped using bells years ago because no one pays attention to the sound of them when you use them and the last time i used a horn i was just given alot of verbal abuse in return and as for pedestrians i've lost count over the years of just how many just step out into the road infact where we previously lived their was one 30 odd year old guy who use to just step out into the main road during rush hour every evening reading the newspaper that he'd just bought at the newsagents and he totally ignored the tooting of car horns or drivers shouting at him ..
 

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