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Well one of them will be an Ass
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Well one of them will be an Ass
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So long as it's not a Zebra, bloody immigrants!
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Right... as a representative of British government, you can talk to terrorists in multi-party negotiations as part of a peace process and then be vilified as evil in the media, but if you need the help of a political wing of a terrorist organisation to cling on to power – that's perfectly acceptable. So then, it is OK to talk to terrorists after all.
Right... as a representative of British government, you can talk to terrorists in multi-party negotiations as part of a peace process and then be vilified as evil in the media, but if you need the help of a political wing of a terrorist organisation to cling on to power – that's perfectly acceptable. So then, it is OK to talk to terrorists after all.
Looking purely at numbers
Even if Labour had every single other parties mp's added to theirs, they would not be able to obtain a majority government unless they talked to the dup. I've ruled out the dup and a labour coalition based on labours comments
So on numbers alone, one of the major parties can form a majority government and the other cannot, so what are you going to so?
Even if Labour had every single other parties mp's added to theirs, they would not be able to obtain a majority government unless they talked to the dup. I've ruled out the dup and a labour coalition based on labours comments
So on numbers alone, one of the major parties can form a majority government and the other cannot, so what are you going to so?
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Wait for this weak and shambolic government to collapse triggering the next GE. Won't be long and the more people are exposed to Corbyns actually policies rather than a dirty smear campaign, the more people like him and the party. Even a die-hard Tory friend of mine is warming to him.
Wait for this weak and shambolic government to collapse triggering the next GE. Won't be long and the more people are exposed to Corbyns actually policies rather than a dirty smear campaign, the more people like him and the party. Even a die-hard Tory friend of mine is warming to him.
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Alternatively lots of people shit themselves about how close he actually came (which really wasn't that close at all) and resolve to stop messing about and vote Conservative.
Interesting times. Especially him going on telly basically claiming to have won. I think he's in the perfect place tbh, a decent result, but not in any danger of having to actually implement anything.
Frankly I'm not against another election. Let him win, let him take the fall for Brexit and start afresh with Ruth Davidson.
Interesting times. Especially him going on telly basically claiming to have won. I think he's in the perfect place tbh, a decent result, but not in any danger of having to actually implement anything.
Frankly I'm not against another election. Let him win, let him take the fall for Brexit and start afresh with Ruth Davidson.
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Actually, I think most of the nation is awakening to how shambolic, utterly shameless and morally bankrupt the sitting Government and it's right wing press are. May is proving that in her desperation to cling on to power, she is quite happy to rend a hole in the space/time continuum and unravel decades of progress and peace and take us all back to chaos, the politics of fear and loathing and violent division. Most of the nation has seen that Corbyn represents a better way of behaving and carrying on. It's time the ruling classes were removed.
Actually, I think most of the nation is awakening to how shambolic, utterly shameless and morally bankrupt the sitting Government and it's right wing press are. May is proving that in her desperation to cling on to power, she is quite happy to rend a hole in the space/time continuum and unravel decades of progress and peace and take us all back to chaos, the politics of fear and loathing and violent division. Most of the nation has seen that Corbyn represents a better way of behaving and carrying on. It's time the ruling classes were removed.
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Come on technodup, you're not stupid, you know the score. Corbyn has been completely vilified by the right wing media, which is most of the UK mainstream media, since taking the reigns as leader of the oppostion. You don't need me or anyone else to provide illustrations. What he has done, against a torrent of abuse, misinformation, misrepresentation and just plain old lies, is remarkable. Labour has recorded the largest swing by any party in decades, in a very very very short time (snap election forecast vs result). Yes, May really fecked things up, but that doesn't take anything away from Corbyn's performance...he's growing into his position rather well.
Whether you agree with his policies or not, that is undeniable, to suggest otherwise is just being contrary at best, truculent at worst.
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Come on technodup, you're not stupid, you know the score. Corbyn has been completely vilified by the right wing media, which is most of the UK mainstream media, since taking the reigns as leader of the oppostion. You don't need me or anyone else to provide illustrations. What he has done, against a torrent of abuse, misinformation, misrepresentation and just plain old lies, is remarkable. Labour has recorded the largest swing by any party in decades, in a very very very short time (snap election forecast vs result). Yes, May really fecked things up, but that doesn't take anything away from Corbyn's performance...he's growing into his position rather well.
Whether you agree with his policies or not, that is undeniable, to suggest otherwise is just being contrary at best, truculent at worst.
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He courted the young, and bribed them. May courted pensioners and robbed them. That about sums it up for me. I don't think he's the second coming, and I don't think he'll fundamentally change anything. Young people get old. And he is old.
He's certainly enjoying himself now though.
He did better than expected, granted. But can we give the whole 'right wing media' thing a rest? So some newspapers (which are on their way out) were hostile. But social media (on the way up) was wildly positive. Your 'abuse, misinformation, misrepresentation and just plain old lies' was pro-Corbyn and multiplied many times over on FB, Twitter etc. All in an instant, with none of the checks and balances even the worst papers have to adhere to.Harryburgundy":38oc51v7 said:
He courted the young, and bribed them. May courted pensioners and robbed them. That about sums it up for me. I don't think he's the second coming, and I don't think he'll fundamentally change anything. Young people get old. And he is old.
He's certainly enjoying himself now though.
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