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Hi all
Struggling to determine the provenance of this frame. I only know what the seller told me- ie what the person they'd bought it from told them. The story goes:
I was suspicious given the lack of badging, imprints (perhaps these things were lost through time and refurb - maybe they're under the current finish), that most (but not all!) African nations had boycotted the 1986 games, suspicious at the lack of downtube braze-ons I would have expected to see on a vintage road bike - though if someone was willing to fabricate track ends then I guess they may have also tidied up other aspects.. but why leave the race tag braze-on except for race connotation? On the other hand, the headtube/downtube lug has a Ciocc cutout, playing into persistent Concorde-Ciocc rumour... seems too much of a niche coincidence for someone to have crafted such deception?! Searching on the internet shows that this was indeed a thing, as can be seen on the 8th photo here.
Searching 'concorde' 'ciocc 'track' keywords together yields a couple of 'known' Concorde/Ciocc track frames from the 80's. Yet there are still discrepancies. I don't know what to think, but I have a gut feeling that it's authentic. Appreciate any and all thoughts on this!
Struggling to determine the provenance of this frame. I only know what the seller told me- ie what the person they'd bought it from told them. The story goes:
and after further questioning,this was a road bike from the 1980s. The guy who sold it to me said he’d bought it from new at the 1986 commonwealth games but later converted it into a track/fixie frame at the rear end.
I’m reasonably sure it’s original and refurbished/modded because it came with the original forks which are all old and rusted up. The guy originally told me it was a road bike from an African team in the commonwealth games. Columbus SL.
I was suspicious given the lack of badging, imprints (perhaps these things were lost through time and refurb - maybe they're under the current finish), that most (but not all!) African nations had boycotted the 1986 games, suspicious at the lack of downtube braze-ons I would have expected to see on a vintage road bike - though if someone was willing to fabricate track ends then I guess they may have also tidied up other aspects.. but why leave the race tag braze-on except for race connotation? On the other hand, the headtube/downtube lug has a Ciocc cutout, playing into persistent Concorde-Ciocc rumour... seems too much of a niche coincidence for someone to have crafted such deception?! Searching on the internet shows that this was indeed a thing, as can be seen on the 8th photo here.
Searching 'concorde' 'ciocc 'track' keywords together yields a couple of 'known' Concorde/Ciocc track frames from the 80's. Yet there are still discrepancies. I don't know what to think, but I have a gut feeling that it's authentic. Appreciate any and all thoughts on this!
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