Falkland Islands

red_riviera":zoykati0 said:
1duck":zoykati0 said:
red_riviera":zoykati0 said:
Not joking

Your arguments are weak

^ :LOL: keep it up, you're cracking me up.

No, there's no fun having a battle of wits with an unarmed man

Exactly why I'm not bothering to debate anything with you. Watching you make a fool of yourself is hillarious though. Everyone else was respectful and nice about it, you on the other hand aren't worth talking with.
 
highlandsflyer":znt7495o said:
red_riviera":znt7495o said:
And frankly it's nothing to do with you, me, Britain, or Argentina. Let's see how their self-determination vote goes, maybe you will respect their democratic decision.

It has plenty to do with those who are expected to give up their lives to go and defend their 'right' to self determination, as well as their families, friends and nation.

And, unfortunately, none of them will get to vote on it.
 
1duck":3n84r3l9 said:
red_riviera":3n84r3l9 said:
1duck":3n84r3l9 said:
red_riviera":3n84r3l9 said:
Not joking

Your arguments are weak

^ :LOL: keep it up, you're cracking me up.

No, there's no fun having a battle of wits with an unarmed man

Exactly why I'm not bothering to debate anything with you. Watching you make a fool of yourself is hillarious though. Everyone else was respectful and nice about it, you on the other hand aren't worth talking with.

I responded to your points, you ignored mine or are unable to refute them.

Go on, take your ball home.
 
Ultimately it is John's ball, and secondly Greenstiles who began an interesting topic. Perhaps we could just play nice and keep the interesting discussion going?
 
dyna-ti":1kn1jdev said:
highlandsflyer":1kn1jdev said:
red_riviera":1kn1jdev said:
And frankly it's nothing to do with you, me, Britain, or Argentina. Let's see how their self-determination vote goes, maybe you will respect their democratic decision.

It has plenty to do with those who are expected to give up their lives to go and defend their 'right' to self determination, as well as their families, friends and nation.

Or expect their country to keep them safe

If they are self determining, then that questions whether this is 'their' country, and whether 'we' ought to be defending them.

We can choose to defend them as part of 'our' territory, in which case they certainly have no right to claim self determination.

:)
 
highlandsflyer":20hexq8f said:
Ultimately it is John's ball, and secondly Greenstiles who began an interesting topic. Perhaps we could just play nice and keep the interesting discussion going?

I agree with this

its pointless arguing like a couple of children.Because that is how it is coming across.
If you disagree then fine you disagree so leave it at that.
thank you and goodnight :cool:

If they are self determining, then that questions whether this is 'their' country, and whether 'we' ought to be defending them.

We can choose to defend them as part of 'our' territory, in which case they certainly have no right to claim self determination.

I agree also,but as that issue hasnt been decided fully yet ,let us wait and see.
If they pick self determination then theyre on their own and the Argentina could move in and evict them.Sure they can appeal to the UN but it wont prevent Argentina form doing what it wants
Probably best for the islanders to stay under British rule,that way they have a large powerful friend to protect them should we see a repeat of the barbaric behaviour witnessed in 1982
 
1duck":1mv36y62 said:
Signal11th":1mv36y62 said:
Christ mate you talk some shit, Argentina has never had a valid claim, They invaded last time and lost, maybe you and few of your 5th column buddies can go and help out with the next "democratic" election they have in Argentina.

Which bit of argentina being closer to the falklands is shit exactly? saying that you have a valid claim because you stuck a flag in something a couple hundred years ago is hillarious. We should go take back hong kong whilst we are on, damn chinese stealing our colony.

Not really,the dutch sighted them first then the french had the first outpost on the island then followed by the English/British until 1776,Spain didn't enter the field until 1776-1811,So were is the Argentina claim? If anything it's the French who have the better claim closely followed by the British then the Spanish.

1823 it was settled by River Plate (pre Argentina) and then was taken back in 1833 by the Brits again!

I fail to see where if anywhere Argentina has any sort of claim to these islands? We have had British Subjects on these islands for decades longer than any other country way before anybody actually started complaining about it.

Who cares if it's closer? Jersey is closer to France than to England you don;t here them kicking up a fuss, distance is irelevant.

Hong Kong is and was completely different and for some reason always brought up by the Argy lovers although Hong Kong was nothing like the Falklands.
 
Do you know, whilst some of us get all hot and bothered about what some are saying regards this issue, whatever is decided is the consensus means absolutely nothing, because us the plebs have no say.

So it could be said, this is nothing to do with us, so perhaps mind our own business.

What happens down there between Britain, Argentina and the Falklands is not our concern, for whatever is decided will be without us and without us in mind.

The only interest those that decide have in us, is when we can aid them in what they want, so that is why they keep a broom cupboard full of flags and banners to get out when they need to get us interested.

Otherwise we just get on with our lives trying to do the best we can with what we are allowed.
 
Signal11th":27xf2rkk said:
1duck":27xf2rkk said:
Signal11th":27xf2rkk said:
Christ mate you talk some shit, Argentina has never had a valid claim, They invaded last time and lost, maybe you and few of your 5th column buddies can go and help out with the next "democratic" election they have in Argentina.

Which bit of argentina being closer to the falklands is shit exactly? saying that you have a valid claim because you stuck a flag in something a couple hundred years ago is hillarious. We should go take back hong kong whilst we are on, damn chinese stealing our colony.

Not really,the dutch sighted them first then the french had the first outpost on the island then followed by the English/British until 1776,Spain didn't enter the field until 1776-1811,So were is the Argentina claim? If anything it's the French who have the better claim closely followed by the British then the Spanish.

1823 it was settled by River Plate (pre Argentina) and then was taken back in 1833 by the Brits again!

I fail to see where if anywhere Argentina has any sort of claim to these islands? We have had British Subjects on these islands for decades longer than any other country way before anybody actually started complaining about it.

Who cares if it's closer? Jersey is closer to France than to England you don;t here them kicking up a fuss, distance is irelevant.

Hong Kong is and was completely different and for some reason always brought up by the Argy lovers although Hong Kong was nothing like the Falklands.

The french sold their claim to the spanish the french having been the original settlers of the falklands. Then the brits stole them, but the islands were abandoned because we lost the finance to keep them due to the war in america. The argentines moved in, then the british sent down a military force about 15 years later and made the argentine citizens leave. Gibraltar is closer to spain, you do hear them kicking up a fuss. Distance is a factor wether you like it or not.
 
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