Crumbs. Didnt mean to start anything
My point is with these(lets call them reproductions) there is no way to differentiate between an original and a reproduction.
So for example, i could buy a set of reproduction Ringle skewers, then sell them down the line as being nos originals at a premium price, and the buyer would be none the wiser. I could rightly be accused of being a counterfeiter, even though i didnt actually make them, i did buy from a source, from what could be classed as a middleman and passed them on knowing they werent genuine.
Now the argument about whether infringement has taken place is correct, but on both points. I am pretty sure the reproductions sold on here, the seller(or maker) hasnt totted up his invoices at the end of the year and passed the requisite amount to the original manufacturer.
So if its produced in China,England,the US or anywhere in the world, it is still counterfeit and the seller is profiting from the retro market, and only for their own gain. Certainly nobody is going to great length to reproduce something that is rare and desirable for the good of the cycling world.
If it is reproduction, then there should be some way of showing it is reproduction, and not copied to the minute detail so nobody can tell real from reproduction apart.
PS
I also think its a bit tenuous to suggest racism is at play, its more as an indicator to its origin rather than an all encompassing slur on the Chinese people.
My point is with these(lets call them reproductions) there is no way to differentiate between an original and a reproduction.
So for example, i could buy a set of reproduction Ringle skewers, then sell them down the line as being nos originals at a premium price, and the buyer would be none the wiser. I could rightly be accused of being a counterfeiter, even though i didnt actually make them, i did buy from a source, from what could be classed as a middleman and passed them on knowing they werent genuine.
Now the argument about whether infringement has taken place is correct, but on both points. I am pretty sure the reproductions sold on here, the seller(or maker) hasnt totted up his invoices at the end of the year and passed the requisite amount to the original manufacturer.
So if its produced in China,England,the US or anywhere in the world, it is still counterfeit and the seller is profiting from the retro market, and only for their own gain. Certainly nobody is going to great length to reproduce something that is rare and desirable for the good of the cycling world.
If it is reproduction, then there should be some way of showing it is reproduction, and not copied to the minute detail so nobody can tell real from reproduction apart.
PS
I also think its a bit tenuous to suggest racism is at play, its more as an indicator to its origin rather than an all encompassing slur on the Chinese people.