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seeing the video , he probably gained an advantage from it , as by slowing down he managed to get right behind the Ferrari and overtake, whereas it would have been impossible just by coming out of the corner .
F1...its a farce!
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isnt 25 seconds the standart penalty for it ?
anyhow it is like evrything else in F1 , a big circus to make money . the sport side has long been gone .
anyhow it is like evrything else in F1 , a big circus to make money . the sport side has long been gone .
Yeah, Hamilton kept the racing line which had more grip so he could accelerate better. Hamilton should have waited he would have passed him later on in the lap most probably.
And yes, 25 seconds is the standard penalty if it's too late in the race to give a drive-through penalty.
And yes, 25 seconds is the standard penalty if it's too late in the race to give a drive-through penalty.
I think the key point is that this is a new interpretation of the rule that you can’t gain an advantage from leaving the track. If you do gain one you must immediately give it back, so up to now dropping back behind has always been sufficient to avoid penalty. While the overtake may have been mainly on later braking through having more grip, there is an arguable case that there could also have been an element of advantage in being in the slipstream. But I think the sense of injustice is because this is the first time anybody has ever been penalised for an overtake at the next corner, and what Hamilton did is what most drivers thought you were supposed to do.
Ironically KR overtook Massa on lap 1 as a result of leaving the track on the exit from La Source and thus getting a better run down the hill and slipstreaming FM up onto the straight, which he wouldn’t have been able to do if he hadn’t left the road. i.e., he broke exactly the same rule, but a lot more clearly. That wasn’t a short cut, but the rule doesn’t mention short cuts, just leaving the road.
Ironically KR overtook Massa on lap 1 as a result of leaving the track on the exit from La Source and thus getting a better run down the hill and slipstreaming FM up onto the straight, which he wouldn’t have been able to do if he hadn’t left the road. i.e., he broke exactly the same rule, but a lot more clearly. That wasn’t a short cut, but the rule doesn’t mention short cuts, just leaving the road.
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As Nicki Lauda said 'worst decision in F1 history'. And that man has forgotten more than we know about racing.
Today in an interview, it's everywhere.Tommi74":5fehtfox said:
I don't understand your point about lines, once Kimi was ahead he had the advantage and could take whatever line he chose, couldn't he? He was only overtaken because the Ferrari has the least grip in the field in those conditions.Tommi74":5fehtfox said:
Witness, Kimi is a great driver but he was the only one to crash out on the last lap. Witness, Massa's last lap was the slowest of any driver in the field, 7 sec slower than the next worst. The car just doesn't work its tyres hard enough to have grip in conditions like that (remember Silverstone).
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