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Nice bike, I have a rather manky Countryman.
The Routier was made by Orbit the same as the Countryman The Routier had much nicer gear on it than the Countryman but was the same frame
BikeUK did at one point have many complete bikes from Holdsworth but I never turned one into an Eclipse
As an aside both the countryman and routier came with full SKS mudguards as standard and a welded alloy rack. Routier had Blackburn rack
That is absolutely a Canyon. The paint has held up well!Re:
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So would you agree mine is possibly a Canyon? It's hard to find any information about it now.
ahh.. yes. When Claude Butler went broke Holdsworth bought cleared stock. Greg bought 150ish bikes. Some were fine as they were and were sold as the Majestic but some came with rubbish groupsets. If I remember Greg had a few resprayed as Routiers. You probably won't find the serial numbers in the Holdsworth database as they were old Claude Butler overstock . Greg also did tend to upsell.. most Routiers were made by Orbit but with much higher quality control than the CountrymanHi - Through the strangest of routes - a Stuart Purves 1951 frame advertised as a barn find Roy Thame (not) - it seems my Eclipse frame is a Holdsworth/Claud Butler mid 1983 Claud Butler Majestic - the lugs are almost identical - and if anything slightly better done on my frame. Greg of Bike UK told a Routier frame buyer he had frames made by Holdsworth. This is Holdsworthy in fact, not the Holdsworth shop, which became Roy Thame in 1976 - hard to keep up? The Routier frame has another six-digit frame number but is not a Holdsworth - but the buyer has a link to Greg - so it is possible there is a lot more info to come...All from the Holdsworth Frame Numbers brilliant posts by Dave Scrimshaw.
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It was a long time ago so my memories may need a jog sometimes!And continue to do so ! Thank you for the confirmation Robert.