Dear Halfords

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Are they really cheap though?

A quick scan of Gumtree would generally afford you a choice of a number of decent recent second hand bikes that offer much better quality and value than the bikes in question.

Guess, like many retailers, Halfords is indeed covering the whole market, and to some extent dictating it due to their market position.

So what will drive them to better quality and genuine value?

Consumer education/awareness may force them to up their game. Thing is, there will always be a bottom to the market.

We might not like it, but to a large number of the uptake in cycling a bike is just a bike. A-B and nothing more.

One of my friends is a twenty two stone giant ex pro rugger bugger. We were working together for six months over ten years ago. When he was running late I used to give him a lift and shoved his bike in the back of the car. The thing weighed a heavy tonne. It was an Apollo full susser. He used to ride this thing two and fro ten odd miles to site most days. I immediately sorted him out with a decent hardtail, and it got nicked a month or so after. He just left it outside a pub, and it was gone. Of course he never locked that Apollo and it never got lifted. He just had no emotional interest in a bike.

Last year he was with us in London and we all took Boris bikes to get into town. He loved them, while all us 'cyclists' decried the weight and clunkiness.

He is Halford's target consumer. Just doesn't care.

Halford also get the people who want Boardmans, and to some extent they are just the same kind of people, who are not really interested in looking around, but consider themselves as more enthusiastic cyclists thus worthy of something more 'pro'. The same people who might get Halfords to change their car bulbs that they pay ten times the price for in the first place and then are happy to pay them extra to fit it. Probably just because they can't be bothered, and they have plenty disposable income and little imagination.

Of course savvy consumers spy bargains sometimes, like those who pointed out Boardmans can be superb value given the spec. So they do get those customers as well, I imagine in small numbers.

But generally comparison shoppers, and bike 'experts' are minded to shop elsewhere.

My take, and I will always use a good local bike shop in preference.
 
The best thing you can do for people who need these piles of shite fixing is tell them about the Sale Of Goods Act. Harry Potter spells have nothing on "not of satisfactory quality" and "not fit for purpose".
 
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highlandsflyer":2garwrc8 said:
One of my friends is a twenty two stone giant ex pro rugger bugger. We were working together for six months over ten years ago. When he was running late I used to give him a lift and shoved his bike in the back of the car. The thing weighed a heavy tonne. It was an Apollo full susser. He used to ride this thing two and fro ten odd miles to site most days.

Probably explains a lot. I've had similar friends. Despite their bikes and apparent unfitness they still manage to get up hills in a 52 chainring because they have legs like tree trunks.

In previous lives, they'd probably be the type who would be wielding a two handed broadsword one handed and yelling like Brian Blessed.

They probably can't tell the difference in weight between an Apollo and a £1K carbon road bike.

They go to Halfords because a bike should only be around £50 to them because that's what their Dad paid bitd for theirs and they can't understand why someone would pay a grand for one (nevermind be patronised by the local bike shop - who never seems to be able to fix any bikes they've brought in for less than the price of a new one).

Personally, if I was in the market for a new bike I'd probably go internet mail order. There are good local bike shops out there, but there are also too many con men, hipsters with a marketing degree, overpriced chains and patronising bike snobs out there.
 
This has been around for years as demonstrated by previous posts.

Its an uphill battle. Minimum specifications for a 'bicycle' are so poor.

I've just repaired a neighbours Halfrauds BMX - plastic levers on a kids bike...

WHY!!!!!!!!!???????

BMX repaired with a tuff set of Avids.
 
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My mate rang our local halfrauds to enquire about the range of women specific menstrual cycles.

The lad on the other end of the phone genuinely apologised stating he wasn't able to find any of those models in the bike hut database.

My mate responded how surprised he was with that, considering halfords was full of useless c#$t's....
 
the apollos aren't that bad in the grand scheme of things

I run a fix-it-up session at a local co op and we get a lot of this kind of stuff in as donated bikes once the first owner has decided cycling isn't for them (usually after about 3 months). They're a lot better than the Tesco chod, which we tend to strip for parts.
 
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The Boardman bikes do seem to have better spec for the money than other brands. Are thy exclusive to Halfords? And eBay!

Mike
 
I am happy to report I saved 2 work mates from the halfords nightmare. I sold 1 a Saracen Sahara and 1 a Raleigh m trax. For £40 each. Although another work mate asked me to fix his Apollo slant. Sadly I had to resign my self to getting it road worthy.
 
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Mike Muz 67":2jp0nuvh said:
The Boardman bikes do seem to have better spec for the money than other brands. Are thy exclusive to Halfords? And eBay!

Mike
Boardman are now owned by Halfords, but had an exclusive deal prior to that.

Some of the very top Boardman's were available through selected cycle shops, I don't know if that is still the case.
 
cce":14krp7op said:
the apollos aren't that bad in the grand scheme of things

I run a fix-it-up session at a local co op and we get a lot of this kind of stuff in as donated bikes once the first owner has decided cycling isn't for them (usually after about 3 months). They're a lot better than the Tesco chod, which we tend to strip for parts.

Apollo moved up market, now the real shite is trax...

I had an apollo excel full susser growing up. front tyre went in the first 10 minutes. Spent most of it's time under the stairs and when I finally dusted it off after a few years to ride to school it fell apart in about a thousand miles.
 
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