Cyclists who kill

[Tsundere]

Yet you're more likely to die while walking in public than riding a bicycle on the road. Avoiding one activity because of a perception of risk, while blithely participating daily in an even riskier activity seems rather odd.

If you read my post you'd have seen that 'I cut across parks, nip down alleyway, take footpaths, tracks and pavements' although 'I still use roads and streets but not when it's busy'. I'd like to see the death rates for cutting across parks, down alleyways, footpaths and tracks.

According to you I'm increasing the risk to my safety by specifically avoiding roads with high volumes of fast moving traffic, what an absurd assertion.

 

[legrandefromage]

If you read my post you'd have seen that 'I cut across parks, nip down alleyway, take footpaths, tracks and pavements' although 'I still use roads and streets but not when it's busy'. I'd like to see the death rates for cutting across parks, down alleyways, footpaths and tracks.

According to you I'm increasing the risk to my safety by specifically avoiding roads with high volumes of fast moving traffic, what an absurd assertion.

He did say 'walking'

 

[CassidyAce]

Anyone interested can see the official figures for themselves:
Pedestrian road casualties: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tsheet-2021#casualty-rates-per-mile-travelled
Cyclist road casualties: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tsheet-2021#casualty-rates-per-mile-travelled

Admittedly, though, these are figures for roads only, not paths, parks, etc. In 2021, there were 26 pedestrians killed for every billion miles walked and, exactly the same number, 26 cyclists killed for every billion miles cycled. However, in most, but not all, years, slightly more pedestrians are killed per billion miles travelled. Cyclists, though, are significantly more likely to be seriously injured.

Not a very cheerful topic.

 

[tintin40]

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2023-01-21/two-cyclists-dead-after-suspected-hit-and-run

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

Anyone interested can see the official figures for themselves:
Pedestrian road casualties: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tsheet-2021#casualty-rates-per-mile-travelled
Cyclist road casualties: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...tsheet-2021#casualty-rates-per-mile-travelled

Admittedly, though, these are figures for roads only, not paths, parks, etc. In 2021, there were 26 pedestrians killed for every billion miles walked and, exactly the same number, 26 cyclists killed for every billion miles cycled. However, in most, but not all, years, slightly more pedestrians are killed per billion miles travelled. Cyclists, though, are significantly more likely to be seriously injured.

Not a very cheerful topic.

Including all journeys, not merely road, its 58 for peds, 51 for cyclists, 8 for motor vehicle occupants (2019 figures).

 

[CassidyAce]

Have you got a link to the source of those statistics?

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

Not after a couple of days I don't. It was either the road safety charity Brake or ONS, id have to have a play with our friend Google again to find it.

 

[CassidyAce]

That's a pity: I'm curious about those figures. They seem high. Cycling UK, using police reports, puts the figures at 35 pedestrians and 29 cyclists per billion miles travelled in 2019 (https://www.cyclinguk.org/statistics page 47 of the report). However, no one really knows the full extent of off-road miles travelled. The DfT, for example, only measures road miles and miles on paths next to roads; it does not measure miles covered on canal paths and other off-road trails. Whatever the exact levels, though, the pattern is consistent across the sources: in most years, there are more pedestrian fatalities than cyclist fatalities relative to miles travelled. The main cause of death, however, is 'accident involving other and unspecified motor vehicles' so it seems safe to say that being off-road is safer for both pedestrians and cyclists.