Claud Butler - Carpenter - Vintage Bike - Wheel Help

[jim haseltine]

I think you've got a mixture of gear setups there. I'm almost certain that those levers weren't intended to operate two derailleurs. The large lever was to move the rear mech across the gears while the smaller lever was to pull on the mech cage to put tension on the chain. You need somebody with more knowledge of pre-1960s gear trains.

 

[WhtANightmare]

I think you've got a mixture of gear setups there. I'm almost certain that those levers weren't intended to operate two derailleurs. The large lever was to move the rear mech across the gears while the smaller lever was to pull on the mech cage to put tension on the chain. You need somebody with more knowledge of pre-1960s gear trains.

The huret tour de France does state the dual lever can be used for front derailleur too. So the setup seems fine.

It's just that the both levers seem to be moving together when they should move independently. The front housing moves with the levers too.

 

[WhtANightmare]

Without being there to look I have no idea.

Not to worry @Guinessisgoodforyou knew it would be a difficult one to both describe and know about without seeing it in person.

 

[WhtANightmare]

Well managed to have another little look after dinner, at it appears the local bike place I took it to just didn't put the levers back correctly. The pin that acts as the stopper was facing outwards rather than fixed between the various plates (as now shown) the levers once again move independently hoorah.

Just need to work out how to adjust the rear derailleur to get the chain to fully bed the largest gear. Not sure if that's a cable tension or derailleur adjustment.

And whilst it's a terrible screenshot from my wife's even more terrible video of me giving it a go. That is indeed myself having a ride on the carpenter (gears clicking away )

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

Well managed to have another little look after dinner, at it appears the local bike place I took it to just didn't put the levers back correctly. The pin that acts as the stopper was facing outwards rather than fixed between the various plates (as now shown) the levers once again move independently hoorah.

Just need to work out how to adjust the rear derailleur to get the chain to fully bed the largest gear. Not sure if that's a cable tension or derailleur adjustment.

And whilst it's a terrible screenshot from my wife's even more terrible video of me giving it a go. That is indeed myself having a ride on the carpenter (gears clicking away )

It's alive, it lives well done.

 

[WhtANightmare]

It's alive, it lives well done.

Thanks @Guinessisgoodforyou yourself and @Woz have been invaluable with your help and advice. It's been hugely appreciated

 

[Woz]

Well cool and well done! It's a great step when it looks and rides more like a bike rather than a pile of old rusty junk

I'm not surprised a local bike shop could make a genuine error on parts this old. Those rear derailleurs usually have what is called a fixed travel, and so the adjustment is made by adjusting the point where the plunger starts it's travel from the largest sprocket.

I'll need to surf a bit, but essentially there will be one locking nut and one nut to drive the derailleur cage more inboard or outboard.

 

[Woz]

Bugger me, and in English

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/huret_-_derailleurs_tour_de_france_scan_3.html

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

Bugger me, and in English

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/huret_-_derailleurs_tour_de_france_scan_3.html

Result!

 

[WhtANightmare]

Bugger me, and in English

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/huret_-_derailleurs_tour_de_france_scan_3.html

Great spot @Woz I'll give it a go tomorrow hopefully, then a final clean and polish will be in order before taking her out for a well deserved ride. Unlike the wife's grandad I'll avidly avoid any hill climbs though my lungs are shocking