Cannondale v700 franck roman signature model help needed

[herramorkkis]

Hello

moved this post here as it seems to fit general discussion better

I Found this bike from the backroom of a shop that buys stuff off from insurance companies and i started thinking if it might be worth something .. even the trouble of fixing the bike ?

seems like its in decent condition and all the parts seem to be if not original then atleast close to the same age as the bike.

I really have no knowledge on old bikes what so ever so honest opinions are more than welcome.

some photos ->

The rear shock does not work at all but that seems to be the biggest problem i can spot right on.

What kind of money should i be willing to spend on a bike like that ?
Is that a bike worth the effort and money to make it shine ?

First thing on my mind was to completely repair and polish the bike and then ride it on sunny sunday afternoons

 

[jimo746]

If you're asking "How much is it worth?" then there's a specific thread for that

It looks to have a few nice bits of kit on it though, worth a punt if you ask me.

Have they got a firm price or are they open to offers?

 

[herramorkkis]

well then it seems that my judgement has failed me yet again.. i just moved this thread from that section to here since it seemed to be full of people showing off something on ebay , not really questioning about anything. And since i have no clue on old bikes what so ever i felt like needing more of a "general info" on the matter if that makes any sense at all

Sorry that was my bad.

well anyways they are open for offers.

 

[DM]

I'd say a couple of hundred pounds/euros/dollars maximum, based on the resale value of:

Purple Cook Bros cranks, brown Flite saddle, and red Shimano DX platform pedals. Even if it turned out to be a nightmare, you could recoup some of that money through those items.

If you wanted to restore it, I'm sure it would be an interesting project. But it could take a lot of time & money to restore, and is unlikey to be worth a fortune when completed.

They were expensive bikes in their day, but technology moves on — especially in disk brakes & suspension. And getting those bits working might be difficult. And they were never amazing even when new (IMO).

My memory of the carbon swing-arm version is not entirely positive. That one has had a disk brake added, which looks a bit ghetto. Be careful it hasn't damaged the carbon arm. At the front: No idea what the internals are in the Moto fork, or how likely you are to find service components for it. The same goes for the brakes.

Overall, if you love it, then go for it. But if it's not your dream bike, then play safe & don't offer much more than the saleable parts are worth.

I might be wrong, and it might be worth a fortune to C'dale fanboys... but my personal history with owning a C'dale was less than stellar :evil:

HTH

 

[herramorkkis]

thanks for the answer , i would say i got stunned on the level of information someone can give about an old bike just by looking at a few pics. really

Are rims that wide common on old bikes btw? when i first saw them i tought they were superduper wide , something like 4-5cm

overall i would love the project and time is not an issue , i think i still have a good 40 years

i think i will go check the bike more properly and if all seems good make an offer and see how things end up.

only concern is the price they will sell it and how to get spares.

 

[DM]

I noticed the rims. Unusual. But no idea what they are. They look very "downhill" oriented, but the frame is not the rare "DH" model, because that had an additional horizontal brace between the two main parts of the V-frame.

Ah, Google is your friend:
http://www.friedhelm-goetz.de/index.php ... edit&id=81

So it looks like the rims are non-standard, and that the factory spec was the more "cross-country" headshok fork, not the DH-style Moto. Presumably, those mods (plus the rims) were made to gain disks front & rear, and to make it a sort of downhiller... something that it wasn't, TBH.

Conclusion: It's very far from original spec, it's unclear what effect the torque of that home-made brake disk strap might have had on the carbon arm, but you could make a modest amount by selling off some parts.

 

[herramorkkis]

well its starting to look like its not worth the effort since it`s that far from original spec.

i dont want to spend that money and time on some mad home scientists work.

Hopefully someday i will find myself a nice piece of biking history and start a project that will last for years to come. (not to mention a reason to go into the garage and get a beer).

Thank you for your information matey, i had a feeling there might be someone here that could get things cleared up but as i mentioned before , the information i got was far more than i anticipated. big thank you for that DM

On a side note , i think i will still go and take a better look at the bike and make a small offer, something like 100€. If nothing more then atleast i could end up with some nice parts i could use in the future.

 

[DM]

100€ would be a good price to get those pedals, saddle and cranks.

 

[jimo746]

£200 would be my top limit, if I had to pick a pricepoint, and that's purely down to the frame and the cranks.
As a whole bike it's not worth that much tbh, if you split it up and sold parts individually then eventually you might make a small profit.
If you had time & money to invest then it could be a decent bike, but you'd probably never recoup the money you put into it.

 

[herramorkkis]

i dont really mind the resale value , i understand its an old bike and the market is thin.

i really hoped it would have been a DH bike or AM/enduro, something pure.
Not an AM bike later modified by someone to have disc brakes and bigger fork.

If i would now start building it i would need to get rid of the breaks, wheels and fork.. then start thinking about making it what it was first intended to be.

Oh and hope the carbon is not damaged