Brother cycles pinecone, retro?

True, but tb p2s with long steerer tubes are like hens teeth.
When suspension Forks were the "must have" but not supplied on many bikes, probably 95, we were given a hundred pairs or so, including p2s and gt 3ds, by another shop, who'd upsold the customer the suspension, but had no market for the rigid. All long gone now.

We all know there's a box of nos tb p2s in dusty backrooms here and there - we just need to find them before the reciever gives them to the scrap man. 😱
 
When suspension Forks were the "must have" but not supplied on many bikes, probably 95, we were given a hundred pairs or so, including p2s and gt 3ds, by another shop, who'd upsold the customer the suspension, but had no market for the rigid. All long gone now.

We all know there's a box of nos tb p2s in dusty backrooms here and there - we just need to find them before the reciever gives them to the scrap man. 😱

I shudder to think of the number of decent rigid forks that ended up with the scrap man, after people 'upgraded' their bikes with suspension forks...
 
Must admit, about 15 years ago I was in "Northwest mountain bikes" in Cheadle, as a friend was having some work done.

I happened to ask if they had any rigid forks lying around; the guy went upstairs to the store room and brought down a nice gold pair of TB P2s, just with storage marks on them. "£20 ok?" He said. I only had £17 on me :LOL: but he was fine with that.
 
My son has a Kepler, they're much heavier than say a Ritchey Ascent, but nearly half the price. Not much lighter than a Surly. Seem to be a nice company though.
 
I like the bike, and specially the rim/disk brake compatibility. It'll be interesting to see the final price, as mentioned many new retro inspired bikes end up costing more than a super nice restored model.

I don't like the horizontal dropouts though. Surly does them too, even though I'd say 5% if their customers use Singlespeed/IGH drivetrains. It makes a pain of swapping wheels or using full mudguards...

Also, if I ever get a "modern" bike, it needs to accept 29". To move from 26" to 27.5" I'd just mount fatter tires...
 
I like the bike, and specially the rim/disk brake compatibility. It'll be interesting to see the final price, as mentioned many new retro inspired bikes end up costing more than a super nice restored model.

I don't like the horizontal dropouts though. Surly does them too, even though I'd say 5% if their customers use Singlespeed/IGH drivetrains. It makes a pain of swapping wheels or using full mudguards...

Also, if I ever get a "modern" bike, it needs to accept 29". To move from 26" to 27.5" I'd just mount fatter tires...
Agree, their Kepler is a great multi-purpose frame set, in the same vein as Surly cross check. The pinecone could develop into something equally worthy of a cult following if they get this right and allow folks to build to their desired outcome. Some of my recent restos have come close to the cost of the Kepler so let's hope they can keep the pinecone to a similar cost point.
 
I'm sure the r&d team had a lot of fun with this! I'm not sure at that price it's going to really take off, and who is it aimed at? Plus .....I can't look at those forks and unsee a Halfords apollo bike.
 
I have never hear of them but I like the Big bro. The price seems to be fair BUT they are UK based, if some one in UE buy a kit ... they have to pay VAT and their destiny country taxes and a little more so, no chance in the future for me. It is sad, but they will be around 1000 pounds.

It is sad to see that all the light weight tubing kits like the Tange Ultimate Superlight or in aluminium all the Scandium stuff like the Easton SC has desapear, columbus etc etc 😪
 
Some great sentiments there and I think all of us would like to see some freeing up of UK\EU excise duty and tax impositions at both ends. I am sure there are also some bespoke EU manufacturers that UK folks would like to take advantage of that we can't easily do today. In this respect the Retrobike forums are traversing these artificial barriers and facilitating cross border exchange of ideas and enthusiastic sharing of our collective interests.A sort of informal collaboration despite officialdom or modern day entente cordiale :)
 
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