Achievable weight loss
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It is, and you're quite correct to be discerning about that.IDB1":2vnfftx3 said:
That is one of the big problems about diet and nutrition - a lot of nonsense is written about it.
Practically all the big ideas or dogmatic concepts people hold about it, have been studied, under controlled scientific conditions - yet many will swear blind that their long-held beliefs are absolute.
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Ian - I'll keep the biscuits in the the tin tomorrow 
Neil":st8qnmqu said:
Unless you are a committed trainer or working in high exercise jobs you will never burn excessive calories by exercise.
For instance a 20mile bike ride at a reasonable pace and HR in the 140s does 800 calories. Pie and chips? it is a lot easier not to eat them in the first place.
3000cals, yes off on that the body consumes about 1500 just to keep it running - all the rest is extras
A daily deficit of somewhere around 2-500 calories is probably an ideal, sustainable deficit.paininthe":1wm0pi0e said:
All I'm saying is that for several reasons - all advantageous, that's best achieved by activity as opposed to calorific reduction.
Thing is, though, it tends not to be an either / or.paininthe":1wm0pi0e said:
As in all of these things, a gentle reduction in calories, and a gentle increase in activity is probably optimum - but then there's more advantages to be had in being more active, over relatively small reductions in calories.
Make no mistake, apart from people who are very active, 3k calories is a lot. It's pretty damn high for somebody who's trying to lose weight - unless they are currently very active (or, I suppose, very big).paininthe":1wm0pi0e said:
wow im awfully confused
if eating lots of meals doesnt increase your metabolism then i dont know what to believe
so many things :shock:
to reduce calorie intake (if thats whats needed :? )
try using a smaller plate for smaller portions
or get a colonic irrigation
if eating lots of meals doesnt increase your metabolism then i dont know what to believe
so many things :shock:
to reduce calorie intake (if thats whats needed :? )
try using a smaller plate for smaller portions
or get a colonic irrigation
Overall.. the formula (as Neil said) is CICO . . eat less, work more.. basically
That's about as far into the science of the thing as I need to go..
My biggest 'sin' is sugar... up until today, I would guess at having up to the equivalent of about 40 tea spoons a day... usually more like 20-30 - roughly
A dozen cups of tea with 2 (sometimes 3) in each... just for starters..
Snacking on sugar on toast or sugar sarnies... not every day but a couple of times a week
2 (rounded) dessert spoons of the stuff on my brekkie (which I am no longer partaking in)
And eat a (level tea) spoonful of the stuff sometimes while making the tea...
And that's before choccie bars (couple a week), what's already in cereal, desserts. . . and on and on...
I have to say, though, once I passed 40 (in years!!) I found it easier to shed weight than in the preceding 15 years... hence my lax attitude to empty calories :?
That's about as far into the science of the thing as I need to go..
My biggest 'sin' is sugar... up until today, I would guess at having up to the equivalent of about 40 tea spoons a day... usually more like 20-30 - roughly
A dozen cups of tea with 2 (sometimes 3) in each... just for starters..
Snacking on sugar on toast or sugar sarnies... not every day but a couple of times a week
2 (rounded) dessert spoons of the stuff on my brekkie (which I am no longer partaking in)
And eat a (level tea) spoonful of the stuff sometimes while making the tea...
And that's before choccie bars (couple a week), what's already in cereal, desserts. . . and on and on...
I have to say, though, once I passed 40 (in years!!) I found it easier to shed weight than in the preceding 15 years... hence my lax attitude to empty calories :?
