1994 Manitou DH, Beneke Replica
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Re: 1994 Manitou DH
Also found a couple of reports from the week:
FOORD, FURTADO WIN MAMMOTH
By Dan Koeppel, Mountain Bike Magazine
MAMMOTH LAKES, CALIFORNIA - A trio of tales dominates the news from this
week's Grundig World Cup/Norba National/off-road schmoozefest in the
California Sierra. Story one is that Brits can kick ***at altitude. Story
two is Juli Furtado remains virtually unbeatable. Story three is a sordid
tale of big bucks and shifting loyalties.
Britain first. Lowlanders or not, England's off-roaders proved they can
compete--and win--at Mammoth's 8,000 foot altitude. Gary Foord (Scott) won
the men's cross-country. Caroline Alexander (Klein) came in second, after
Furtado, in the women's. And Tim Gould (Schwinn) came in a close third in the
men's cross-country a day after winning the hillclimb.
Alexander--who dropped out of last year's XC after a half-lap--seemed in
shock over her results. "I just wanted to finish," Alexander said. "I'm so
surprised!"
The win confirms Alexander as Furtado's closest rival in for the Grundig
World Cup. She's second behind the GT rider, who still holds a vast--and
virtually unshakable--lead for that prize.
Off the course, gossip raged that this would be John Tomac's last ride for
long-time sponsor Raleigh. Though Tomac's parting from Raleigh--perhaps as
soon as next week, though more likely at season's end--was confirmed by
several reliable sources, none of them could vouch for the second half of the
rumor: that Tomac had already signed a $250,000, two-year contract with
Giant. Tioga will remain Tomac's lead sponsor, at least through the end of
this season. "After that, we'll have to look at everything," said Tioga
spokesman John Honda.
Tomac dropped out of the race after leading the first lap, citing an
unspecified illness.
Furtado--who has taken Tomac's place as the world's winningest,
most-recognizable mountain biker--absolutely cruised Mammoth. She was
characteristically pessimistic before the race, saying that the revamped
course was too loose and sandy, but went on to lead from the beginning,
topping Alexander by 4:14. Finishing behind Alexander were Tammy
Jacques-Grewal (Evian), Susan DeMattei (DBR), and Ruthie Matthes (Evian).
Matthes holds the Norba National Championship Series lead--Furtado skipped
Atlanta's cross-country in June after an elbow injury. That makes Furtado the
circuit's most powerful and unlikely underdog, a situation Furtado
acknowledged was "very weird."
Golden Brainard--rookie pro for Specialized--turned in a stunning, surprising
performance. Brainard trailed Furtado by a respectable 0:52 at the end of
one lap. She retired after breaking her front derailleur.
In the men's event, Gould led nearly the entire way--at the beginning of lap
three by 0:36--before being passed by Foord and Bart Brentjens
(Netherlands/American Eagle) on the final climb. Two miles remained in the
race, and Gould held on, but could not regain the lead.
Afterwards, Gould denied his hillclimb win the day before depleted his energy
at the finish of the cross-country. "That was a good half-hour's training,"
Gould said. "I really, really wanted to win. I just got passed."
The big American XC story was Ned Overend (Specialized), Mammoth's all-time
most successful rider. Overend, 38, passed three dozen racers during the
second and third laps, dicing with Foord for second place before dropping
back at the end. Univega's John Weissenrieder finished fifth.
Unofficial overall World Cup standings after Mammoth: Brentjens, Foord,
Henrik Djernis (Denmark/Ritchey), Tinker Juarez (Volvo-Cannondale), and
Tomac. Women's standings: Furtado, Alexander, DeMattei, Sylvia Furst
(Switzerland/Specialized-2 Calorie Quest), Alison Sydor
(Canada/Volvo-Cannondale).
Winner of the women's hillclimb was Jill Smith (Canada/Diamond Back).
Mammoth's signature event--the Kamikaze downhill--is scheduled for Saturday,
July 9, followed by the Reebok Eliminator on Sunday.
MEN'S CROSS COUNTRY RESULTS:
1. Gary Foord, GBR/Scott, 2:20:12.00
WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY RESULTS
1. Juli Furtado, USA/GT, 1:42.14.62
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BENEKE, SONIER TAKE KAMIKAZE
by Dan Koeppel
MAMMOTH LAKES, CA, JULY 9 - Speeding quickly down a course rougher than
previous years, German downhiller Jurgen Beneke (Marin/Manitou) diced it out
with John Tomac (Tioga/Raleigh), beating the U.S. rider by 2:02 seconds down
the 3.5-mile Mammoth Mountain Kamikaze course. Kim Sonier, riding for Iron
Horse, won the women's Kamikaze, topping Italy's Giovanna Bonazzi
(Princycles) by .61 seconds.
Beneke rode a prototype long-travel downhill bike built by Manitou, while
Tomac rode his own experimental Raleigh downhill rig.
Who didn't win? Missy Giove--one of the Kamikaze favorites--turned in a
heroic fifth-place performance after suffering a broken hand in practice the
day before. Giove had vowed to race no matter what, and finished seven
seconds behind Sonier, riding partly one-handed, to preserve her World Cup
lead.
Current men's Grundig leader Francois Gachet landed in 42nd place after a
tech problem with his rear shock.
In the first heat of the Kamikaze--which counted toward the NORBA, rather
than the Grundig, points series, Yeti rider Jimmy Deaton topped second-place
finisher Beneke, while Sonier beat German Regina Stiefl (Bypass/Rocky).
KAMIKAZE RESULTS:
MEN/GRUNDIG WORLD CUP
1. Jurgen Beneke, Germany/Marin-Manitou, 4:47.92
2. John Tomac, USA/Tioga-Raleigh, 4:49.95
3. Todd Tanner, USA/Specialized, 4:52.71
4. Tomi Misser, Spain/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:54.86
5. Phillipe Perakis, Switzerland/Diesel-Dainese, 4:55.26
6. Myles Rockwell, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:56.77
7. Kelly Lee, USA/Yeti, 4:58.20
8. Albert Iten, Switzerland/Wheeler, 4:58:29
9. Filip Meirhaege, Germany/Team MBK, 4:59.21
10. Chris O'Driscoll, USA/Schwinn, 5:01.80.
MEN/GT NORBA NATIONAL
1. Jimmy Deaton, USA/Yeti, 4:51.65
2. Jurgen Beneke, Germany/Marin-Manitou, 4:52.52
3. John Tomac, USA/Tioga-Raleigh, 4:52.86
4. Myles Rockwell, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:53.57
5. Phillipe Perakis, Switzerland/Diesel-Dainese, 4:54.73
6. Jake Watson, USA/Marin, 4:55.39
7. Eric Palmquist, USA/Cataclaim, 4:55.49
8. Francois Gachet, France/Sunn Chipie, 4:55.89
9. Kelly Lee, USA/Yeti, 4:56.15
10. Andrew Shandro, Canada/KHS, 4:46.15
Note: Only US riders receive Norba points.
WOMEN'S/GRUNDIG WORLD CUP
1. Kim Sonier, USA/Iron Horse, 5:16.36
2. Giovanna Bonazzi, Italy/Princycles, 5:16.97
3. Regina Stiefl, Germany/Bypass Rocky, 5:18.83
4. Cindy Devine, Canada/Clark Kent, 5:19.51
5. Missy Giove, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 5:23.72
6. Cindy Whitehead, USA/KHS-Bolle, 5:25.63
7. Penny Davidson, USA/Evian, 5:25.74
8. Mikki Douglass, USA/Diamond Back, 5:26.62
9. Susan DiBiase, USA/Evian, 5:27.19
10. Kathy Sessler, USA/Action-Tec, 5:28.84
WOMEN'S/GT NORBA NATIONAL
1. Kim Sonier, USA/Iron Horse, 5:10.59
2. Regina Stiefl, Germany/Bypass Rocky, 5:12.26
3. Ann-Caroline Chausson, France/Sunn Chipie, 5:14.35
4. Missy Giove, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 5:18.29
5. Cindy Devine, Canada/Clark Kent, 5:19.05
6. Penny Davidson, USA/Evian, 5:21.79
7. Rita Burgi, Switzerland/Swatch-Yeti, 5:23.98
8. Susan DiBiase, USA/Evian, 5:24.50
9. Mikki Douglas. USA/Diamond Back, 5:26.88
10. Cindy Whitehead, USA/KHS-Bolle, 5:27.80
REEBOK DUAL SLALOM RESULTS
MEN:
1. Brian Lopes, Mongoose
2. Jimmy Kight. Barracude-Dos Equis
3. Terry Tenette, Ritchey-Agro
4. "Pistol" Pete Loncarevich, Parkpre
5. Gerg Herbold, Miyata/Grip Shift.
WOMEN:
1. Cheri Elliot, KHS
2. Leigh Donovan, DBR (Diamond Back)
3. Giovanna Bonazzi, Princycles
4. Kim Sonier, Iron Horse
5. Penny Davidson, Evian
Also found a couple of reports from the week:
FOORD, FURTADO WIN MAMMOTH
By Dan Koeppel, Mountain Bike Magazine
MAMMOTH LAKES, CALIFORNIA - A trio of tales dominates the news from this
week's Grundig World Cup/Norba National/off-road schmoozefest in the
California Sierra. Story one is that Brits can kick ***at altitude. Story
two is Juli Furtado remains virtually unbeatable. Story three is a sordid
tale of big bucks and shifting loyalties.
Britain first. Lowlanders or not, England's off-roaders proved they can
compete--and win--at Mammoth's 8,000 foot altitude. Gary Foord (Scott) won
the men's cross-country. Caroline Alexander (Klein) came in second, after
Furtado, in the women's. And Tim Gould (Schwinn) came in a close third in the
men's cross-country a day after winning the hillclimb.
Alexander--who dropped out of last year's XC after a half-lap--seemed in
shock over her results. "I just wanted to finish," Alexander said. "I'm so
surprised!"
The win confirms Alexander as Furtado's closest rival in for the Grundig
World Cup. She's second behind the GT rider, who still holds a vast--and
virtually unshakable--lead for that prize.
Off the course, gossip raged that this would be John Tomac's last ride for
long-time sponsor Raleigh. Though Tomac's parting from Raleigh--perhaps as
soon as next week, though more likely at season's end--was confirmed by
several reliable sources, none of them could vouch for the second half of the
rumor: that Tomac had already signed a $250,000, two-year contract with
Giant. Tioga will remain Tomac's lead sponsor, at least through the end of
this season. "After that, we'll have to look at everything," said Tioga
spokesman John Honda.
Tomac dropped out of the race after leading the first lap, citing an
unspecified illness.
Furtado--who has taken Tomac's place as the world's winningest,
most-recognizable mountain biker--absolutely cruised Mammoth. She was
characteristically pessimistic before the race, saying that the revamped
course was too loose and sandy, but went on to lead from the beginning,
topping Alexander by 4:14. Finishing behind Alexander were Tammy
Jacques-Grewal (Evian), Susan DeMattei (DBR), and Ruthie Matthes (Evian).
Matthes holds the Norba National Championship Series lead--Furtado skipped
Atlanta's cross-country in June after an elbow injury. That makes Furtado the
circuit's most powerful and unlikely underdog, a situation Furtado
acknowledged was "very weird."
Golden Brainard--rookie pro for Specialized--turned in a stunning, surprising
performance. Brainard trailed Furtado by a respectable 0:52 at the end of
one lap. She retired after breaking her front derailleur.
In the men's event, Gould led nearly the entire way--at the beginning of lap
three by 0:36--before being passed by Foord and Bart Brentjens
(Netherlands/American Eagle) on the final climb. Two miles remained in the
race, and Gould held on, but could not regain the lead.
Afterwards, Gould denied his hillclimb win the day before depleted his energy
at the finish of the cross-country. "That was a good half-hour's training,"
Gould said. "I really, really wanted to win. I just got passed."
The big American XC story was Ned Overend (Specialized), Mammoth's all-time
most successful rider. Overend, 38, passed three dozen racers during the
second and third laps, dicing with Foord for second place before dropping
back at the end. Univega's John Weissenrieder finished fifth.
Unofficial overall World Cup standings after Mammoth: Brentjens, Foord,
Henrik Djernis (Denmark/Ritchey), Tinker Juarez (Volvo-Cannondale), and
Tomac. Women's standings: Furtado, Alexander, DeMattei, Sylvia Furst
(Switzerland/Specialized-2 Calorie Quest), Alison Sydor
(Canada/Volvo-Cannondale).
Winner of the women's hillclimb was Jill Smith (Canada/Diamond Back).
Mammoth's signature event--the Kamikaze downhill--is scheduled for Saturday,
July 9, followed by the Reebok Eliminator on Sunday.
MEN'S CROSS COUNTRY RESULTS:
1. Gary Foord, GBR/Scott, 2:20:12.00
WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY RESULTS
1. Juli Furtado, USA/GT, 1:42.14.62
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BENEKE, SONIER TAKE KAMIKAZE
by Dan Koeppel
MAMMOTH LAKES, CA, JULY 9 - Speeding quickly down a course rougher than
previous years, German downhiller Jurgen Beneke (Marin/Manitou) diced it out
with John Tomac (Tioga/Raleigh), beating the U.S. rider by 2:02 seconds down
the 3.5-mile Mammoth Mountain Kamikaze course. Kim Sonier, riding for Iron
Horse, won the women's Kamikaze, topping Italy's Giovanna Bonazzi
(Princycles) by .61 seconds.
Beneke rode a prototype long-travel downhill bike built by Manitou, while
Tomac rode his own experimental Raleigh downhill rig.
Who didn't win? Missy Giove--one of the Kamikaze favorites--turned in a
heroic fifth-place performance after suffering a broken hand in practice the
day before. Giove had vowed to race no matter what, and finished seven
seconds behind Sonier, riding partly one-handed, to preserve her World Cup
lead.
Current men's Grundig leader Francois Gachet landed in 42nd place after a
tech problem with his rear shock.
In the first heat of the Kamikaze--which counted toward the NORBA, rather
than the Grundig, points series, Yeti rider Jimmy Deaton topped second-place
finisher Beneke, while Sonier beat German Regina Stiefl (Bypass/Rocky).
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Beneke went on to win the eliminator by 0.64 secondsKAMIKAZE RESULTS:
MEN/GRUNDIG WORLD CUP
1. Jurgen Beneke, Germany/Marin-Manitou, 4:47.92
2. John Tomac, USA/Tioga-Raleigh, 4:49.95
3. Todd Tanner, USA/Specialized, 4:52.71
4. Tomi Misser, Spain/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:54.86
5. Phillipe Perakis, Switzerland/Diesel-Dainese, 4:55.26
6. Myles Rockwell, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:56.77
7. Kelly Lee, USA/Yeti, 4:58.20
8. Albert Iten, Switzerland/Wheeler, 4:58:29
9. Filip Meirhaege, Germany/Team MBK, 4:59.21
10. Chris O'Driscoll, USA/Schwinn, 5:01.80.
MEN/GT NORBA NATIONAL
1. Jimmy Deaton, USA/Yeti, 4:51.65
2. Jurgen Beneke, Germany/Marin-Manitou, 4:52.52
3. John Tomac, USA/Tioga-Raleigh, 4:52.86
4. Myles Rockwell, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 4:53.57
5. Phillipe Perakis, Switzerland/Diesel-Dainese, 4:54.73
6. Jake Watson, USA/Marin, 4:55.39
7. Eric Palmquist, USA/Cataclaim, 4:55.49
8. Francois Gachet, France/Sunn Chipie, 4:55.89
9. Kelly Lee, USA/Yeti, 4:56.15
10. Andrew Shandro, Canada/KHS, 4:46.15
Note: Only US riders receive Norba points.
WOMEN'S/GRUNDIG WORLD CUP
1. Kim Sonier, USA/Iron Horse, 5:16.36
2. Giovanna Bonazzi, Italy/Princycles, 5:16.97
3. Regina Stiefl, Germany/Bypass Rocky, 5:18.83
4. Cindy Devine, Canada/Clark Kent, 5:19.51
5. Missy Giove, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 5:23.72
6. Cindy Whitehead, USA/KHS-Bolle, 5:25.63
7. Penny Davidson, USA/Evian, 5:25.74
8. Mikki Douglass, USA/Diamond Back, 5:26.62
9. Susan DiBiase, USA/Evian, 5:27.19
10. Kathy Sessler, USA/Action-Tec, 5:28.84
WOMEN'S/GT NORBA NATIONAL
1. Kim Sonier, USA/Iron Horse, 5:10.59
2. Regina Stiefl, Germany/Bypass Rocky, 5:12.26
3. Ann-Caroline Chausson, France/Sunn Chipie, 5:14.35
4. Missy Giove, USA/Volvo-Cannondale, 5:18.29
5. Cindy Devine, Canada/Clark Kent, 5:19.05
6. Penny Davidson, USA/Evian, 5:21.79
7. Rita Burgi, Switzerland/Swatch-Yeti, 5:23.98
8. Susan DiBiase, USA/Evian, 5:24.50
9. Mikki Douglas. USA/Diamond Back, 5:26.88
10. Cindy Whitehead, USA/KHS-Bolle, 5:27.80
REEBOK DUAL SLALOM RESULTS
MEN:
1. Brian Lopes, Mongoose
2. Jimmy Kight. Barracude-Dos Equis
3. Terry Tenette, Ritchey-Agro
4. "Pistol" Pete Loncarevich, Parkpre
5. Gerg Herbold, Miyata/Grip Shift.
WOMEN:
1. Cheri Elliot, KHS
2. Leigh Donovan, DBR (Diamond Back)
3. Giovanna Bonazzi, Princycles
4. Kim Sonier, Iron Horse
5. Penny Davidson, Evian
Skynet
Senior Retro Guru
Re: 1994 Manitou DH
Was trying to work out what was going on with the chain guide as this photo shows him in the small ring.
Wondering if for the downhill he ran on the big ring with the guide and for the eliminator a front mech. Can't see him have being on the small ring all the way down. That would suite me as it makes it more rideable although that's a big jump and it's also 36t total difference (12-28, 36/56) which is 3t more than the XTR was meant to handle.
Was trying to work out what was going on with the chain guide as this photo shows him in the small ring.
Wondering if for the downhill he ran on the big ring with the guide and for the eliminator a front mech. Can't see him have being on the small ring all the way down. That would suite me as it makes it more rideable although that's a big jump and it's also 36t total difference (12-28, 36/56) which is 3t more than the XTR was meant to handle.
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Gotta love a post with factual (historic) info surrounding their build
Way to many builds just chart where the wallets been waved (include myself in this statement)
Will have a proper read later when I get back home
Gotta love a post with factual (historic) info surrounding their build
Way to many builds just chart where the wallets been waved (include myself in this statement)
Will have a proper read later when I get back home
Skynet
Senior Retro Guru
Re: 1994 Manitou DH
The bit from WTB about Jurgen running the Velociraptor on the rear.
http://www.wtb.com/blogs/wtb/8730201-th ... h-mountain
Throwback Thursdays: WTB Velociraptor Rear Tire at the 1994 Reebok Eliminator (Kamikaze) at Mammoth Mountain
The Velociraptor is a tire that has stood the test of time. Paddle wheel belts of tread, hunks of incisor side knob rubber, and tall tread height make for a tire that lasts forever and loves to dig. It still sells exceptionally well to this day.
In 1993, the famous Mammoth Kamikaze race changed up its format. Reebok was the title sponsor and the race pitted riders against each other with two tracks and a series of heats determining the winner. Mammoth is an absolutely massive mountain, its name is apt and it is what made 50+ MPH downhills, skin suits, and humongous, over-sized custom chainrings famous. A helicopter dramatically lifted racers to the roof of the Sierra Nevada mountains as spectators and the press watched superhuman speeds in nervous awe.
Myles Rockwell, a Fairfax, CA native (WTB's backyard) won the 1993 Eliminator.
In 1994, WTB attended the event and the Velociraptor tire had just arrived. Only the rear tires were available and Gary Gleason (WTB's current Director of Sales) loaded up his VW van with bundles of the 127 tpi brand new, fresh rubber that had just arrived from Japan.
Jurgen Beneke, a German potential race favorite, suffered a mechanically-related misfortune leading up to race day. A young, smooth and fast talking Tom Delacy (WTB's former OEM Sales Manager and co-owner of awesome bike shop, Larkspur Bike-N-Bean) stepped in to save the day and before the dust had settled, Tom and Gary had a fresh Velociraptor rear tire on Jurgen Beneke's bike.
In a heroically dramatic showdown, Jurgen Beneke edged out former champ Myles Rockwell. Rockwell needed to win by 1.2 seconds and couldn't fend off Beneke's with his voracious Velociraptor rear tire. Not a bad first impression for a rear tire.
The bit from WTB about Jurgen running the Velociraptor on the rear.
http://www.wtb.com/blogs/wtb/8730201-th ... h-mountain
Throwback Thursdays: WTB Velociraptor Rear Tire at the 1994 Reebok Eliminator (Kamikaze) at Mammoth Mountain
The Velociraptor is a tire that has stood the test of time. Paddle wheel belts of tread, hunks of incisor side knob rubber, and tall tread height make for a tire that lasts forever and loves to dig. It still sells exceptionally well to this day.
In 1993, the famous Mammoth Kamikaze race changed up its format. Reebok was the title sponsor and the race pitted riders against each other with two tracks and a series of heats determining the winner. Mammoth is an absolutely massive mountain, its name is apt and it is what made 50+ MPH downhills, skin suits, and humongous, over-sized custom chainrings famous. A helicopter dramatically lifted racers to the roof of the Sierra Nevada mountains as spectators and the press watched superhuman speeds in nervous awe.
Myles Rockwell, a Fairfax, CA native (WTB's backyard) won the 1993 Eliminator.
In 1994, WTB attended the event and the Velociraptor tire had just arrived. Only the rear tires were available and Gary Gleason (WTB's current Director of Sales) loaded up his VW van with bundles of the 127 tpi brand new, fresh rubber that had just arrived from Japan.
Jurgen Beneke, a German potential race favorite, suffered a mechanically-related misfortune leading up to race day. A young, smooth and fast talking Tom Delacy (WTB's former OEM Sales Manager and co-owner of awesome bike shop, Larkspur Bike-N-Bean) stepped in to save the day and before the dust had settled, Tom and Gary had a fresh Velociraptor rear tire on Jurgen Beneke's bike.
In a heroically dramatic showdown, Jurgen Beneke edged out former champ Myles Rockwell. Rockwell needed to win by 1.2 seconds and couldn't fend off Beneke's with his voracious Velociraptor rear tire. Not a bad first impression for a rear tire.
Skynet
Senior Retro Guru
Re: 1994 Manitou DH
Went through parts of the Eliminator final run video frame by frame, it's such bad quality. They mainly concentrate on Myles Rockwell but you can just make out that off the ramp Jurgen's in the small ring. At the end he's unsurprisingly on the large ring.
So this means that either the AC chain device either isn't on or it's a type that my limited knowledge of them doesn't know about. Unless someone knows differently I'll stick with the former.
Went through parts of the Eliminator final run video frame by frame, it's such bad quality. They mainly concentrate on Myles Rockwell but you can just make out that off the ramp Jurgen's in the small ring. At the end he's unsurprisingly on the large ring.
So this means that either the AC chain device either isn't on or it's a type that my limited knowledge of them doesn't know about. Unless someone knows differently I'll stick with the former.
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Agreed.
Love build threads with proper investigation work and info
Retro Spud":3v5ga2s4 said:Gotta love a post with factual (historic) info surrounding their build
Way to many builds just chart where the wallets been waved (include myself in this statement)
Will have a proper read later when I get back home
Agreed.
Love build threads with proper investigation work and info
Skynet
Senior Retro Guru
Re: 1994 Manitou DH
Thanks Niall.
When I was updating the decals graphics yesterday to add the Shannon seat tube and seatpost ones I was thinking again about the J BENEKE down tube decals. I had decided I wasn't going to add them as it's not his frame but saw the Myles Rockwell replica Yeti again which does have them and got me thinking again.
Guess I can add them and decide later whether to use them.
Messaged WTB to see if they've higher quality versions of the photos. Not hopeful or you'd think they would have used them but no harm in asking. They might even reply unlike AC.
The stem's the last thing I'm stuck on. Have a short list of possibilities but they don't seem a great match for varying reasons. It did cross my mind that perhaps, as the frame was a prototype or there weren't any upright ahead stems, that it really is an Answer Atac as Jurgen says but a quill one with a threaded steerer. It's the right shape, would explain the lack of bolts at the back and why the headset's so tall but the decals don't look right, A.TAC is normally in large letters. Thinking it's 135mm/17 degree.
Tried fiddling with the pics to enhance them enough to read/guess what the stem decals say but couldn't. Can see that there are 2 lines of text though.
Thanks Niall.
When I was updating the decals graphics yesterday to add the Shannon seat tube and seatpost ones I was thinking again about the J BENEKE down tube decals. I had decided I wasn't going to add them as it's not his frame but saw the Myles Rockwell replica Yeti again which does have them and got me thinking again.
Guess I can add them and decide later whether to use them.
Messaged WTB to see if they've higher quality versions of the photos. Not hopeful or you'd think they would have used them but no harm in asking. They might even reply unlike AC.
The stem's the last thing I'm stuck on. Have a short list of possibilities but they don't seem a great match for varying reasons. It did cross my mind that perhaps, as the frame was a prototype or there weren't any upright ahead stems, that it really is an Answer Atac as Jurgen says but a quill one with a threaded steerer. It's the right shape, would explain the lack of bolts at the back and why the headset's so tall but the decals don't look right, A.TAC is normally in large letters. Thinking it's 135mm/17 degree.
Tried fiddling with the pics to enhance them enough to read/guess what the stem decals say but couldn't. Can see that there are 2 lines of text though.
