fguki
Senior Retro Guru
Guys ... been there! In 1992. Spent hours standing next to the 1992 / 1993 models. Truth is as follows:
- 1992 Team issue: Yellow / fluo yellow. It was NOT green!!! The green ish color comes from fading and degeneration over the years. Remember that the original Marin decals of that time are PRINTED! In 1993 as well. They are NOT fully colored vinyl foils like we have or use today. Back in 1992 the original down tube decals were a (about 4 times thicker than todays vinyl cuts) white base coat vinyl that got the end-color printed on separately! TOp tube decals were normal "stickers" on transparent foil. In 1993 then, top-tube and down tube was that thicker printed foil. Anyways - lets not go further into the production process of the retro original decals vs. the recent repro sets.
- 1993 "Team Marin" or the quoted "Palisades Trail" like in thread no #205 above was a COMPLETELY different color (fluo green) and has nothing to do with the original 1992 "Team Issue" color.
Now, if your 1992 Team Issue decals appear super green today, they are degenerated over time - or have been replaced at some point. But most likely faded and degenerated.
One thing though - speaking of the catalogues: 1993 "Team Issue" original color is called: Plum. Just like the Pine Mountain stuff and Pine FRS of that same year. But looks SUPER different in the catalogue! Simply: wrong and far from reality!
One more thing - concerning catalogues: In fact, you will from time to time find things in the pictures of the catalogues that actually NEVER made it into mass production of the actual bikes that were produced and shipped out about 6 months later. Remember, that all the catalogue pictures were taken about one whole year before the bikes acutally went into mass production! Things have been changed from picture to actual new production year.
Cheers
- 1992 Team issue: Yellow / fluo yellow. It was NOT green!!! The green ish color comes from fading and degeneration over the years. Remember that the original Marin decals of that time are PRINTED! In 1993 as well. They are NOT fully colored vinyl foils like we have or use today. Back in 1992 the original down tube decals were a (about 4 times thicker than todays vinyl cuts) white base coat vinyl that got the end-color printed on separately! TOp tube decals were normal "stickers" on transparent foil. In 1993 then, top-tube and down tube was that thicker printed foil. Anyways - lets not go further into the production process of the retro original decals vs. the recent repro sets.
- 1993 "Team Marin" or the quoted "Palisades Trail" like in thread no #205 above was a COMPLETELY different color (fluo green) and has nothing to do with the original 1992 "Team Issue" color.
Now, if your 1992 Team Issue decals appear super green today, they are degenerated over time - or have been replaced at some point. But most likely faded and degenerated.
One thing though - speaking of the catalogues: 1993 "Team Issue" original color is called: Plum. Just like the Pine Mountain stuff and Pine FRS of that same year. But looks SUPER different in the catalogue! Simply: wrong and far from reality!
One more thing - concerning catalogues: In fact, you will from time to time find things in the pictures of the catalogues that actually NEVER made it into mass production of the actual bikes that were produced and shipped out about 6 months later. Remember, that all the catalogue pictures were taken about one whole year before the bikes acutally went into mass production! Things have been changed from picture to actual new production year.
Cheers
but I’d rather 3d print my own!
