Hey Canuk, been there too, explains why I like over-sized frames. Worksop frames are superb, when Raleigh took over Carlton there was a transition period, early '80's, but then .... Carlton was essentially lost.I must admit, my preference is for Carlton over Raleigh. I've just got my hands on a 1982 Holdsworth Professional in the orange and blue. It was the first bike I ever saw in a proper bike shop, before my uncle sold me a 531 race bike that was at least two sizes too big for me!