Would it be wrong.........
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wickedwheels
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There's a right way and a wrong way to do things
First, I should say that my way is the right way
If your way is different then my way, then it most likely is the wrong way
Certain components are timeless. Regardless of how good/different new stuff is certain items just haven't gotten better. For that category of parts you should use as vintage of an item as you can find. For example, titanium handlebars are fantastic. Carbon handlebars don't offer any real advantages, but do offer some serious disadvantages. So, when spec'ing a handlebar on a retro modern build, go vintage.
Other components:
Stems have only come so far
Headsets: a 15 year old King headset with no logos is just as good as todays
Seatpost: again, I favor titanium. Or something so boutique and special (like a Bold post) that it will always be worthy of a build.
Saddle: personal preference there, but I love the feel of a Regal.
Hubs: it depends on your options. Today's Hadley isn't any better than a 12 year old GT. Today's XTR M970 is significantly better than the original M900.
Brakes: a true vintage frame won't accommodate disc brakes, so there's not point in talking about that. But they will accommodate V-brakes. I can't think of any V-brake better than Avid Ultimate Arch brakes. Same goes for brake levers. It seems that today's stuff is getting lighter at a cheaper price point, but also is made cheaper and feels cheaper.
Rims: if you're a Mavic guy you may have noticed that modern Mavics are a little softer alloy than those from 10 years ago.
Good luck!
First, I should say that my way is the right way
If your way is different then my way, then it most likely is the wrong way
Certain components are timeless. Regardless of how good/different new stuff is certain items just haven't gotten better. For that category of parts you should use as vintage of an item as you can find. For example, titanium handlebars are fantastic. Carbon handlebars don't offer any real advantages, but do offer some serious disadvantages. So, when spec'ing a handlebar on a retro modern build, go vintage.
Other components:
Stems have only come so far
Headsets: a 15 year old King headset with no logos is just as good as todays
Seatpost: again, I favor titanium. Or something so boutique and special (like a Bold post) that it will always be worthy of a build.
Saddle: personal preference there, but I love the feel of a Regal.
Hubs: it depends on your options. Today's Hadley isn't any better than a 12 year old GT. Today's XTR M970 is significantly better than the original M900.
Brakes: a true vintage frame won't accommodate disc brakes, so there's not point in talking about that. But they will accommodate V-brakes. I can't think of any V-brake better than Avid Ultimate Arch brakes. Same goes for brake levers. It seems that today's stuff is getting lighter at a cheaper price point, but also is made cheaper and feels cheaper.
Rims: if you're a Mavic guy you may have noticed that modern Mavics are a little softer alloy than those from 10 years ago.
Good luck!
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greenZ"It's your bike - do what [b:3p12rft8 said:
Oh exactly. And I shall
Just good to take into account peoples thoughts.
Wouldn't want it to be seen as me butchering a classic!
Love the look of some of the modernised retro steeds - maybe a modernisedf B.O.T.M?
Cheers folks - will be ploughing ahead
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wickedwheels":4cm70pov said:
That’s part of my point though.
I’m thinking about completely modernising a retro frame. Adding a disc tab and appropriately strengthening isn’t a problem
Is this project for the fun of the build or for the riding experience?
If you have the frame already and use it and love it then i can see the point in upgrading it with disks etc to increase the performance or remove problems - we did that back in the day; I bodged disk mounts on my 1997 Intense Uzzi SL and a friend did the same to his Diamond Back.
Some bikes are just fine with Canti's or V-brakes due to the XC handling or where they are ridden - but some places and bikes tempt you so far to the silly side that better brakes become necessary.
As for shocks... I've read somewhere that a good modern air shock can transform Trek Y-bikes and Klein Mantra's into half decent bikes :roll: , but is it worth the cash and hassle when more modern full suss bikes are so good.
Definately an interesting and fun sounding project.
If you have the frame already and use it and love it then i can see the point in upgrading it with disks etc to increase the performance or remove problems - we did that back in the day; I bodged disk mounts on my 1997 Intense Uzzi SL and a friend did the same to his Diamond Back.
Some bikes are just fine with Canti's or V-brakes due to the XC handling or where they are ridden - but some places and bikes tempt you so far to the silly side that better brakes become necessary.
As for shocks... I've read somewhere that a good modern air shock can transform Trek Y-bikes and Klein Mantra's into half decent bikes :roll: , but is it worth the cash and hassle when more modern full suss bikes are so good.
Definately an interesting and fun sounding project.
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messiah":yzfga1gu said:
Both really. I just like ton tinker
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