Why does every shock I post or buy from overseas get lost?

Say what you will about our terrible, terrible...terrible government but at least they've leveled us up... I mean, before brexit working class peeps on a limited income would shop at Aldi but thanks to food bank donations they now have the opportunity to eat food from Waitrose.. we need to give them more credit for this socio-economic shift...
 
Say what you will about our terrible, terrible...terrible government but at least they've leveled us up... I mean, before brexit working class peeps on a limited income would shop at Aldi but thanks to food bank donations they now have the opportunity to eat food from Waitrose.. we need to give them more credit for this socio-economic shift...
Awesome 😂
 
I tell you what, whatever the issue might be, implying you won't post abroad because Johnny Foreigner isn't trust worthy isn't the answer.

Sorry, but I find it hard to believe, based on my experience in both (many) places, that anyone in the UK is inherently more honest and trustworthy than their foreign bike collecting counterparts. And some of the rhetoric in here sounds like it's trying to suggest as much.

There are dickheads everywhere.

But right now, shipping, everywhere, is a complete mess. It's not dictated by countries or borders, or morals, but in an overwhelmed and largely underpaid work force.

IMHO.
 
I can only go on my own experiences hence why I don’t post abroad unless I know the person. Far too much hassle on almost all
occasions.

Let me be clear -

Every item I post in the UK is tracked. Even tiny cheap items. Im not saying that UK buyers don’t try it on. They do. However I have control as the tracking works.

I get many messages once a item is delivered asking “what’s the tracking mate” This is their way of seeing whether you have tracked it. Once tracking is provided and you mention the item is delivered you never hear back. This happens a lot. Especially via fb/eBay.

Issue is once it leaves the UK you have no control. This leaves you wide open as a seller.

I sell many many items as you may know and I can count on one hand how many I’ve lost/damaged/scammed from UK buyers in the last 10 years and I always sort it for the buyer.

Whether I’m suggesting that foreign buyers are more untrustworthy or have more opportunity to be I’ll leave that for you to decide.

I’d also like to point out that very very few issues come from retrobike and is by far the best folk to deal with on a whole.
 
I'm agreeing a lot with PPL above.
- Covid19 introduced a concept of not signing for a Proof of Delivery (international and domestic). This is a radical shift in the logistics industry, and I doubt the industry will revert back even when/if Covid19 subsides; I see it already here in France with La Poste; if you want a signed Proof of Delivery you pay more for this service which was once considered a long-standing default normality in logistics.

- The moment there is a hard border, visibility of what goes on is always reduced. Physically, the items do not have continuity of complete care and custody by the transporter, nor even the customs broker. The UK depended so much on Roll On Roll Off shipping infrastructure and the
government could not get their head around the fact you can't have free movement of goods without free movement of people. What was seamless pre-Brexit is interrupted with disjointed systems, many handovers, new actors, and a paper trail taking longer than a physical goods movement. Hell, even today the UK government''s stupid knee-jerk response of offering pitiful short-term visas for foreign truck drivers fell flat on it's arse; it's just a continuation of a grossly badly managed ill thought out major infrastructure change.

- We can also remind ourselves about the lack of air-freight too.

I wouldn't go as far as saying international buying and selling is a mugs game, but if you do it, be prepared to make sure the paper work is 100% correct and complete, and pick a suitable reputable company (often the incumbents like Royal Mail, La Poste etc.), and as a seller cover your ass with a higher service level, don't commit to any lead-times, and seek insurance which you hope a buyer is prepared to pay.

Everyone looses, no one gains, because mutual benefit got wiped off the agenda.
 
I'm agreeing a lot with PPL above.
- Covid19 introduced a concept of not signing for a Proof of Delivery (international and domestic). This is a radical shift in the logistics industry, and I doubt the industry will revert back even when/if Covid19 subsides; I see it already here in France with La Poste; if you want a signed Proof of Delivery you pay more for this service which was once considered a long-standing default normality in logistics.

- The moment there is a hard border, visibility of what goes on is always reduced. Physically, the items do not have continuity of complete care and custody by the transporter, nor even the customs broker. The UK depended so much on Roll On Roll Off shipping infrastructure and the
government could not get their head around the fact you can't have free movement of goods without free movement of people. What was seamless pre-Brexit is interrupted with disjointed systems, many handovers, new actors, and a paper trail taking longer than a physical goods movement. Hell, even today the UK government''s stupid knee-jerk response of offering pitiful short-term visas for foreign truck drivers fell flat on it's arse; it's just a continuation of a grossly badly managed ill thought out major infrastructure change.

- We can also remind ourselves about the lack of air-freight too.

I wouldn't go as far as saying international buying and selling is a mugs game, but if you do it, be prepared to make sure the paper work is 100% correct and complete, and pick a suitable reputable company (often the incumbents like Royal Mail, La Poste etc.), and as a seller cover your ass with a higher service level, don't commit to any lead-times, and seek insurance which you hope a buyer is prepared to pay.

Everyone looses, no one gains, because mutual benefit got wiped off the agenda.
Ah but the Brexiters get to say "they won" which for some reason seams to be very important to them.
 
We all lost....anybody who believes that anything good came from brexit is deluded......

As for post, just to highlight quite how complicated and protracted the whole thing is now, my mate was taken on along with 5 others to join an existing team of 3, who for 10 years had been able quite happily to manage the dispatch for a medium sized company mainly selling into europe. Now all 8 of them can't cope with the paperwork and complaints, delays, lost items, claims for compensation etc.

Well, we wanted apparently to be an island....so now we are.

Sadly, i hoped that a bright side might be uk companies stepping up and starting to make stuff or at least seizing the opportunity to shine.....but no.....lethargy all round.

Wow......just wow. I'm glad I've retired.
 
mmmh. Winning as being a successful early architect to undo regulation and oversight for selfish personal gain?
 
We all lost....anybody who believes that anything good came from brexit is deluded......

As for post, just to highlight quite how complicated and protracted the whole thing is now, my mate was taken on along with 5 others to join an existing team of 3, who for 10 years had been able quite happily to manage the dispatch for a medium sized company mainly selling into europe. Now all 8 of them can't cope with the paperwork and complaints, delays, lost items, claims for compensation etc.

Well, we wanted apparently to be an island....so now we are.

Sadly, i hoped that a bright side might be uk companies stepping up and starting to make stuff or at least seizing the opportunity to shine.....but no.....lethargy all round.

Wow......just wow. I'm glad I've retired.
Just realised you should change your username to tooretyred 😁
 
Errrr, I've just received two parcels from my dad, both tracked from Harrogate post office to my front door, 60km North of Göteborg, having passed through Belgium, Germany and Denmark on the way...
 
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