Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[technodup]

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I thought the Tories were the low tax party? Not going to tackling the deficit any time soon then. Oh, and austerity has already failed to bring down the debt. Where they going to look for their own next money tree?

Come on techno, give us an answer and try not to use in petty insults when lacking in detail.

I've said it a million times, the Tories aren't acting like Tories. Despite all the rhetoric we've not really had austerity, we're still spending more than we earn every year. They're talking tough but shying away from the decisions (presumably) because they want to keep Blairite types onboard.

The deficit is coming down, but all the time it is 'coming down' debt is still increasing.

Anyway, rightly or wrongly in the country this argument has been won. Labour are a basket case on anything money related, as was demonstrated by Abbott this morning. I've not heard so bad an interview for a long time. For various reasons she's an utter disgrace.

 

[brocklanders023]

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Despite all the rhetoric we've not really had austerity,

Tell that to the Public Services. The effects of Tory cuts can be seen if you come to my Fire Station.

They tried austerity, shouted about it from the roof tops, slashed and burned then realised it had made no difference and their plan had failed. At that point they changed track but the damage had been done.

Trust them with the economy? :facepalm:

 

[technodup]

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Despite all the rhetoric we've not really had austerity,

Tell that to the Public Services. The effects of Tory cuts can be seen if you come to my Fire Station.

They tried austerity, shouted about it from the roof tops, slashed and burned

I'm sorry but this is a lie which needs called out every time. Yes some departments have had cuts, but others have been maintained and others e.g. the NHS increased.

Overall, we still spend more than we earn. What part of that is difficult to understand?

Nobody (not even those nasty Tories) wants to see people die in fires or sleep on the streets, but every pound we spend has to come from somewhere. At the minute too much of it comes from borrowing, which has to be paid back with interest, meaning we're basically punting the problem down the line. To our children and grandchildren.

Abbott, one of those who we're supposed to trust with our finances was on the Daily Politics there, inexplicably trying to blame Jo Coburn for her not knowing her figures earlier. Then after her usual patronising sneering Coburn asks her about the CGT rate which inevitably she again fails to answer, because she clearly didn't know. Basic questions to a shadow minister. Utter shambles of a response. But Jezza's not embarrassed. Well he should be, because that was a car crash. And not her first.

It beggars belief anyone would vote for that mob.

 

[M-Power]

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Senior Politicians should be made to sit a stringent set of exams covering advanced maths with statistics, economics, geography, science and linguistics ( Mandarin, German, Spanish ) This would weed out those who continually spout pure ideological dogma with no basis in historical fact or economic viability and also those with poor factual recollection or reasoning skills. It has become far too important a job affecting millions of lives to have the feeble minded running the show.

.....and yes i do know Abbott went to Cambridge Uni. Her Alma Mater must be ashamed of her.

 

[brocklanders023]

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Forget the current labour mob as they have not and probably will not be given the chance to make a mess of anything.

My point still stands. The tories got in to power by saying the only way to fix the deficit/debt was their plan of austerity which they followed until even Gideon had to admit defeat and revert to a plan very similar to what labour had proposed. By that point the damage had been done but with no real benefit. If you think it's a lie then feel free to come to the station where I can show you what the effect of Tory financial competence is.

 

[technodup]

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By that point the damage had been done but with no real benefit.

No, the damage was done when Labour spent and spent and spent buying people like you's votes. More money for this that and the other, tax credits, childcare, 50% to go to uni, let's make everyone a client of the state. Not to mention PFI and god knows what else which iirc is somehow not counted in the deficit calculation.

But like you say it's immaterial for now. Labour ain't getting in.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the poll. I had imagined it would be wildly unrepresentative (and it is re Labour) but it seems there's a shy Tory element even within RB.

 

[brocklanders023]

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By that point the damage had been done but with no real benefit.

No, the damage was done when Labour spent and spent and spent buying people like you's votes. More money for this that and the other, tax credits, childcare, 50% to go to uni, let's make everyone a client of the state. Not to mention PFI and god knows what else which iirc is somehow not counted in the deficit calculation.

But like you say it's immaterial for now. Labour ain't getting in.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the poll. I had imagined it would be wildly unrepresentative (and it is re Labour) but it seems there's a shy Tory element even within RB.

You keep telling yourself that. Nothing to do with the banks and all would have been well if the gold wasn't sold. :facepalm:

 

[legrandefromage]

I've got gold bar-tape to put on one of my bikes. Is that too extravagant?

 

[brocklanders023]

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YES!

LGF, do you still have a mountain LX thumbies top cap going spare?

 

[legrandefromage]

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YES!

LGF, do you still have a mountain LX thumbies top cap going spare?

Cor blimey, thats a while ago. Will have a look in the Shed Of Mystery

Shed of Mystery features in Mark Radcliffe's show yesterday 2h 36m in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08n9mmb