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What have the Conservatives done with the debt they have incurred? No one seems to question Tory spending.
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What have the Conservatives done with the debt they have incurred? No one seems to question Tory spending.
technodup
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I've said it again and again, I'd prefer a considerably more radical solution where we ACTUALLY cut spending rather than pay lip service to it whilst increasing it all the time. Having said that if the polls are to be believed it would seem the Tories have got it spot on.
But either way it would really help if you stopped conflating debt and deficit or at least showed a basic understanding of how one affects the other, who gave us the structural deficit in the first place or how Corbyn is going to address it.
I'll not hold my breath.
But either way it would really help if you stopped conflating debt and deficit or at least showed a basic understanding of how one affects the other, who gave us the structural deficit in the first place or how Corbyn is going to address it.
I'll not hold my breath.
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I never said anything about deficit, I'm talking about debt, which you want to blame labour for, even though your boys rack it up the fastest every time.
Every time tories get in they do this. Every time, they take the money that normally goes towards keeping society functional and piss it away on god knows what, then take out loans and piss it away too.
They're the least efficient spenders you could possibly elect into office, that's why only they can get into debt while cutting spending to the bone everywhere money needs to be spent - it's why under tories the streets always fill up with homeless and public libraries shut.
You know who else goes through tons of money, gets into loads of debt but never spend any on the basics? Smackheads.
Every time tories get in they do this. Every time, they take the money that normally goes towards keeping society functional and piss it away on god knows what, then take out loans and piss it away too.
They're the least efficient spenders you could possibly elect into office, that's why only they can get into debt while cutting spending to the bone everywhere money needs to be spent - it's why under tories the streets always fill up with homeless and public libraries shut.
You know who else goes through tons of money, gets into loads of debt but never spend any on the basics? Smackheads.
Bats
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I'm glad you give up.
Amazing how when "financially irresponsible" Labour is in, the country's debt gets paid down, and they even find a bit of spare money so that poor people can sleep under roofs instead of shop doorways, and then read at books in the daytime.
And when "financially responsible" tories are in, the debt climbs like the first big hill on a roller coaster and they can't spare tuppence to make sure the lights stay on north of the watford gap.
If we're charitable and say it's not all going on backhanders, decadence and graft, where has the money gone? Up boy george's nose?
Amazing how when "financially irresponsible" Labour is in, the country's debt gets paid down, and they even find a bit of spare money so that poor people can sleep under roofs instead of shop doorways, and then read at books in the daytime.
And when "financially responsible" tories are in, the debt climbs like the first big hill on a roller coaster and they can't spare tuppence to make sure the lights stay on north of the watford gap.
If we're charitable and say it's not all going on backhanders, decadence and graft, where has the money gone? Up boy george's nose?
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funny how the graph shows very low debt under Thatcher, up a bit for Major then back to where it started when Labour left that note 'theres no money left'
Bats
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That was Maggie's one trick, flogging all the furniture and stripping the copper wires and pipes for the scrap man. Like all smackheads though the Conservative party eventually runs out of valuables to sell and have to borrow for their next fix.
It really is smackhead economics. They sell off things that provide steady income, and they sell them for a pittance, because they desperately need money right now for their next hit. And then they wonder why in the long run they're skint.
It really is smackhead economics. They sell off things that provide steady income, and they sell them for a pittance, because they desperately need money right now for their next hit. And then they wonder why in the long run they're skint.
technodup
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Debt is the symptom of the underlying problem, which is the deficit. An ongoing imbalance in our spending v our tax take. Which is Labour's legacy to us.
Focusing on debt in itself is the mark of a moron. While we have a deficit debt will increase. Obviously.
Our tax take is already the highest its been for decades, so if we can't raise it there is only one answer. One which politicians are shit scared of tackling. On both sides.
Focusing on debt in itself is the mark of a moron. While we have a deficit debt will increase. Obviously.
Our tax take is already the highest its been for decades, so if we can't raise it there is only one answer. One which politicians are shit scared of tackling. On both sides.
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I thought the Tories were the low tax party? Not going to tackling the deficit any time soon then. Oh, and austerity has already failed to bring down the debt. Where they going to look for their own next money tree?
Come on techno, give us an answer and try not to use in petty insults when lacking in detail.
I thought the Tories were the low tax party? Not going to tackling the deficit any time soon then. Oh, and austerity has already failed to bring down the debt. Where they going to look for their own next money tree?
Come on techno, give us an answer and try not to use in petty insults when lacking in detail.
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