Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[M-Power]

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Show me examples of Socialist/Communist economies that are/were so perfect Bats ? Cuba, Venezuela, USSR ? China is prolly the most successful raising 600,000 people out of poverty but at what cost to the environment ?. No system is perfect for everybody. Its an imperfect world and statistics are mostly damn lies as somebody once said.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ist_states

Tell me which of these states you would rather live in ? The majority of people living under those systems never have/had a better quality of life. Thats why so many people have/are trying to leave those countries and move to the West. Who can blame them either. We would do the same in their position.

Im 100% a believer in a more egalitarian society, caring for the environment etc but this should be achieved through International agreement, having less wars, less arms dealing, wasting £Trillions on mudering people, regenerating areas destroyed by conflict and disease etc

 

[xerxes]

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When have Labour ever reduced taxes ?

I'm not expecting them to.

I look around the world and I think, where would I like to live, what nations to I admire, what sort of place would I like Britain to be.

Like the US, with low taxes, "small government", little or no social care, very poor free education, little social mobility, a very high prison population, a militaristic police force and a political system that is massively influenced by large corporations and the financial system to the extent that the mantra "one man one vote" is now "one dollar one vote".

Or like Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark or Iceland where they have high taxes, a large bureaucracy, excellent standards for health, social care and education, low crime, low prison populations and are all nations that regularly top the poles for happiest nations on earth along with Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

Then I think, which of our political parties is most likely to lead us towards the latter and it's most certainly not the Conservatives; who have long looked towards the US for political influence, at one point we even named that political vision after our respective leaders, "Reaganomics" and "Thatcherism".

Incidentally, I came across a comment on an article about Corbyn by a Swedish person living in England, I can't find it now, but the gist of it was, that while Corbyn is seen as very radically left wing here in the UK, his views and policies would be fairly centre ground in Sweden.

 

[CTK]

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http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... ince-1979/

Labour borrow less per year in office than the Tories. So they are definitely not pissing it up a wall. Pay back more debt as well.

 

[M-Power]

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http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... ince-1979/

Labour borrow less per year in office than the Tories. So they are definitely not pissing it up a wall. Pay back more debt as well.

Simple question. If Labour were so good at managing the UK Economy why arent they still running the country ?

 

[CTK]

You accept that they borrow less per year in office than the Tories then? & pay off more debt?

Labour not in power: in the last 2 elections I'd put it down to G. Brown, E. Milliband and the Tories having more friends in high places.

 

[M-Power]

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When have Labour ever reduced taxes ?

I'm not expecting them to.

I look around the world and I think, where would I like to live, what nations to I admire, what sort of place would I like Britain to be.

Like the US, with low taxes, "small government", little or no social care, very poor free education, little social mobility, a very high prison population, a militaristic police force and a political system that is massively influenced by large corporations and the financial system to the extent that the mantra "one man one vote" is now "one dollar one vote".

Or like Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark or Iceland where they have high taxes, a large bureaucracy, excellent standards for health, social care and education, low crime, low prison populations and are all nations that regularly top the poles for happiest nations on earth along with Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

Then I think, which of our political parties is most likely to lead us towards the latter and it's most certainly not the Conservatives; who have long looked towards the US for political influence, at one point we even named that political vision after our respective leaders, "Reaganomics" and "Thatcherism".

Incidentally, I came across a comment on an article about Corbyn by a Swedish person living in England, I can't find it now, but the gist of it was, that while Corbyn is seen as very radically left wing here in the UK, his views and policies would be fairly centre ground in Sweden.

Sounds amazing. Lets all move to Sweden then, lots of freely available 6ft blondes, strong economy, great weather. Im not a fan of the US system either and dont believe the Tories are leading us that way. Thats lefty BS propaganda. The Tory party has move significantly left under May. The centre ground is most fair to all and thats where my politics are.

 

[CTK]

The Tory party has move significantly left under May

Go on then, give us some significant examples.

 

[M-Power]

You accept that they borrow less per year in office than the Tories then? & pay off more debt?

Labour not in power: in the last 2 elections I'd put it down to G. Brown, E. Milliband and the Tories having more friends in high places.

Its simple, if that lot were doing such an incredible job as the majority on here think, then why did people vote them out ? I suppose the SNP are doing a wonderful job after 10yrs in scotland. I saw K Wark rip Sturgeon's Education system failures to pieces the other night. Maybe screwing kids futures is a metric of success for Socialists, keep em down, dont want them ending up with lofty ambitions and becoming ffffing Tories !

 

[M-Power]

The Tory party has move significantly left under May

Go on then, give us some significant examples.

Free Grammar School programme to encourage social mobility. Kicking the asset rich elderly out on the streets when they go bonkers. Prolly will legalise Euthanasia with home kits readily avaiable from Harrods or Asda as the case may be.

 

[CTK]

So grammar schools? Yep a popular lefty policy that.