Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[technodup]

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By that point the damage had been done but with no real benefit.

No, the damage was done when Labour spent and spent and spent buying people like you's votes. More money for this that and the other, tax credits, childcare, 50% to go to uni, let's make everyone a client of the state. Not to mention PFI and god knows what else which iirc is somehow not counted in the deficit calculation.

But like you say it's immaterial for now. Labour ain't getting in.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the poll. I had imagined it would be wildly unrepresentative (and it is re Labour) but it seems there's a shy Tory element even within RB.

You keep telling yourself that. Nothing to do with the banks and all would have been well if the gold wasn't sold. :facepalm:

I'm not defending banks here. But...

The banks didn't design tax credits to give people back some of the tax they already paid.
The banks didn't create an arbitrary target of 50% school leavers to go to uni.
The banks didn't throw money at childcare, sure start, EMA or any other scheme to create a client state.

All of this stuff has to be paid for. With taxes. But the government has no money. So some poor bastard i.e. people like me, have to create value which people will pay for in order to pay those taxes.

And it's interesting you mention the gold, I didn't. But it's entirely symptomatic of the chaos Labour left us in. Pre announce you're going to sell it, so the price goes down. And actually sell it at a 20 year low in the market. $300 when he sold, $1800 a few years later. Billions of lost revenue potential.

It's literally incredible people will willingly vote for that again, but likely much worse. I say willingly because it is still possible I will. And believe me that really sticks in the craw.

 

[Harryburgundy]

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More selective replies from comrade Technohub

Do you really want to talk about which government sold the family assets?

 

[technodup]

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Do you really want to talk about which government sold the family assets?

If you like, I think we should privatise some more tbh.

Starting with the NHS.




*runs away*

 

[Harryburgundy]

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Ha ha!

 

[technodup]

The funny thing is you think I'm joking.

The funnier thing is in one way, shape or form it has to happen, it's simply that the spineless politicians keep trying to kid on the money is neverending. My preference is for a two tier system- want to jump the queue? Put your hand in your pocket.

 

[kingbling]

If we want a private health care system then lets just become American FFS. No we should stop our health care system being used by health care migrants who come over here get an operation then *uck off back home, ending this behaviour would save the NHS millions (and if they turned off the lights in the empty offices at weekends they would probably save a bundle too) . It's greed that drives everything how can a bag of sand cost more that it did 10 years ago its the same sand excavated in the same way yet the greedy *unt that owns the quarry wants more money for it because some other greedy so and so put up there prices. Its not spending thats unsustainable it's the price increase, The rich call it inflation the wise call it greed.

And for what its worth if the NHS did get privatised Mrs bling could probably earn £100K a year, but its not what I would want this country to come too while I still breathe. It won't matter who you vote for as they don't control the price of everyday commodities.

 

[technodup]

No we should stop our health care system being used by health care migrants who come over here get an operation then *uck off back home,

Agreed, it's a scandal. But it won't address the fundamentals of an ageing population, new and improved treatments and rising med costs.

how can a bag of sand cost more that it did 10 years ago its the same sand excavated in the same way yet the greedy *unt that owns the quarry wants more money for it because some other greedy so and so put up there prices.

Well for a start the guy who's doing the digging probably wouldn't be happy with no wage increase in a decade.

 

[videojetman]

The funny thing is you think I'm joking.

The funnier thing is in one way, shape or form it has to happen, it's simply that the spineless politicians keep trying to kid on the money is neverending. My preference is for a two tier system- want to jump the queue? Put your hand in your pocket.

The funny thing about your statement is there are a whole group of people jumping the que putting Sod all in. At the expense of hard working people.

 

[Harryburgundy]

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So
We CAN afford
Trident
To refurbish Buckingham palace
To reduce income tax rate for higher earner
To reduce corporation tax
To let HMRC have sweetheart deals with large international companies whereby they pay peppercorn taxes whilst enjoying significant trading in our country...but hound small business for every bleeding penny they can get
To subsidise public transport with taxpayers money yet allowing the profits to go to shareholders
To cut inheritance tax for the richest families in the country (don't get me started on the Royal Family)
And plenty others that don't immediately come to mind

But we can't afford
The NHS
To eradicate child poverty
A decent living wage so people don't have to use food banks
A decent transport infrastructure
Etc etc etc

A vote for Tory is another nail in the coffin for this country

 

[legrandefromage]

Sorry but:

The refurb of Buck palace is paying for itself. That has been pointed out a few times. *Its Crown Estate which contributed £304.1 million to HM Treasury in 2016.

Food banks have strict criteria for their use, you cant just walk in so even on minimum wage, you wouldnt be able to use it *unless referred by a body or organisation

Trident was to be paid by both Labour and the Conservatives - theres no-one who really wants to do anything with that.

The NHS has more money being spent on it but you seem to have missed points made earlier that companies are ripping the NHS/ Local Councils off with absurd contracts and pricing regardless of who is in No. 10. That needs a complete shake up, again regardless of no. 10 occupents

Listen to Radio 4's More or Less programs, lots of real facts and figures to play with and non political explanations behind them. The most recent has a good explanation on the NHS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd


This is an example of what we live in: A child was born brain dead but brought back by NHS staff. That child now needs hundreds of thousands of pounds of care each year. The mother (an NHS employee) sued the NHS for millions. So there is a care package still being paid for by you and I via indirect taxation and then theres the compensation. More and more of the NHS budget is spent on compensating rather than care - regardless of those in No. 10.