who could of made this bike with cutout seatstay tops

Maynard started it with his 'flippant' reply. Wasting his (and more importantly) and my time. He should get out on his bike more........
 
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Looking at the lug work (appears to be precast with some modification work), the brake bridge and the use of off the shelf rack mounts, I reckon this might be a custom built jobby. A damn nice one (given the time it takes to alter lugs etc.) but not a mass produced machine. happy to be corrected though.

be nice to see some full pictures if possible.
 
Hold on, hold on…, Bournemouth rising?
 
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Looking at the lug work (appears to be precast with some modification work), the brake bridge and the use of off the shelf rack mounts, I reckon this might be a custom built jobby. A damn nice one (given the time it takes to alter lugs etc.) but not a mass produced machine. happy to be corrected though.

be nice to see some full pictures if possible.
Thank you Sir! the kind of reply I was looking for. A few friends on other forums (and facebook classic cycle groups) have suggested it could be Cliff Shrubb's Work ??? There is no frame number (i've had it stripped to bare metal) only stamp of id is on dropouts. the lugged frame is very fancy (nervex?) and welds are very professional and tidy..
 

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I almost lost myself in the crossfire.

Right, for sure, whoever whittled away the seat-stay lugs was definitely somebody who knew what they were doing....... (I think that is five dots) ....... (and another five) but, what is a bit special is going to that length and effort for all that 1 or 2 gram saving and then putting braze-ons for a rack mount......for presumably a touring bike. It makes little sense. It makes no sense in the real world.

My thinking is that the cut-outs are more of a signature of the frame build. Probably someone obsessed with lightweight frames, and your frame is one produced for a regular customer who wanted something lightweight for CX races. After a few seasonss racing CX, the frame being relegated to winter club rides then converted for touring, adding rack braze-ons to extend it's useful life. Then re-sprayed to what you see today. Just a guesstimate. There is no photo of the rear drop-outs to proove or dis-prove my theory / bullshit....are there specific mounts and/or drillings for racks, do they appear retro-fitted like an after-thought?

Eitherway, it's a little bijoux objet d'art because even in these parts, any road frame with a canti-hanger and canti-studs is a rarity.
 
Never seen a cliff shrubb with lugs like that according to my mate bill (he has bought about 6 frames off cliff himself and still rides one today some 45 years later) Says he wasn't into fancy lug work like that.
 
I dont think anything has been added after the build. The whole bike picture shows guard and rack mounts in the cast of the drop out.
I think the holes are purely aesthetic much like the lug work and bridges.
It does appear to have had an overspray at some point.

Nice looking bike.
 
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