Which new full-sus frame???

[BarneyRubble]

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I love my whyte 129-s (it won trail bike of the year last year beating much more expensive competition including the carbon Santa Cruz tall boy!) but it may not be quite gnarly enough for you. Take a look at the rest of the range as their bikes get outstanding reviews and are great value.

 

[BarneyRubble]

Don't forget intense as well. Some awesome kit in their range!

 

[suburbanreuben]

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Check out Ventana;
http://www.ventanausa.com/
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... -12-45765/
http://www.riversidecyclecentre.co.uk/

 

[jimo746]

Hmmm.... ventana. The 650b I posted uses a Ventana rear end. Another one to look at I think

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

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Your question is a bit odd - you want a sports car that's good off road and does 70 to the gallon. They don't exist.

I'd say he was quite specific in his requirements, no? Trail/Enduro/AM are all pretty much...

You sure? Trail and enduro are closest, but still.aren't really interchangeable. AM carries slacker geometry and 20-30mm more suspension than typical examples of the former two. The stated requirements are such that one bike won't cover them all effectively. Decide which is the most important and cover that base effectiveness you can, because trying to find one that does all 3 well isn't a realistic proposition.

The 5 is a Marmite bike. Not my thing, I don't like the strange.behaviour as wheelbase changes with the rear axle path the relative lack of rising rate damping and the large unsprung mass. Just never feels quite right to me. You've got be pretty dialled into your arse dyno, but once you'll always be aware of the shortcomings. A relatively easy maintenance proposition though.

I still say go and ride plenty - unless you're 6'3" (and 3/4), weigh 260, have a 34.5" inside leg and arms like an orangutang, then anything that works well for men is unlikely to do so for you. You may as well resort to a tarot reading as to take notice of what we recommend as a means to choosing a bike.

 

[jimo746]

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Your question is a bit odd - you want a sports car that's good off road and does 70 to the gallon. They don't exist.

I'd say he was quite specific in his requirements, no? Trail/Enduro/AM are all pretty much...

You sure? Trail and enduro are closest, but still.aren't really interchangeable. AM carries slacker geometry and 20-30mm more suspension than typical examples of the former two. The stated requirements are such that one bike won't cover them all effectively. Decide which is the most important and cover that base effectiveness you can, because trying to find one that does all 3 well isn't a realistic proposition.

I did state "hard trail riding", around these parts trail/enduro/AM are pretty much the same thing
My current bike is 100/120mm travel and let's just say it gets a bit overwhelmed on some of the descents, I would definitely be quicker and more controlled on something with a little more travel and suitable geometry.
In these times of pigeon holing I'd technically need 3 different bikes to ride my local trails most effectively, if the manufacturers blurb is to be believed. So I'd agree that one bike isn't going to cover all bases 100%, I'd place more emphasis on tackling tough technical trails and sections of downhill, the climbs can be done at a leisurely pace

You may as well resort to a tarot reading as to take notice of what we recommend as a means to choosing a bike.

that could equally be applied to any question asked on the internet.

 

[Carge]

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Considered a Pyga?

 

[jimo746]

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Considered a Pyga?

No, but I have now they seem to get mega reviews.

See, I never heard of Pyga (I have heard of Morewood at least!), so thanks for that.

 

[Carge]

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I had my eyes on a Morewood Zula - but it didn't pan out.
Now Pat has setup under the Pyga name - if I was after a new frame - I'd be seriously considering one.

 

[Mindmap3]

I know I've got one,but I'm a big fan of the current Banshee bikes.

My Rune is overkill a fair bit of the time (it's a far better bike than I'll ever be rider) but it doesn't feel like you're lugging a tank around. The KS Link suspension is really very good. I've done big XC rides in the Dales to uplift days at Antur on mine and it's never felt lacking. The adjustable angles allow you to get it pretty dialled in (I find neural slack enough really) and the sealable drop outs future proof it against the onslaught of 650b wheels.

If the Rune looks a bit OTT, the Spitfire is supposed to be very good. 140mm travel but designed to take 160mm forks. It has a slightly steeper head angle and a longer top tube but is still capable of taking a real beating.